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Dov Joseph on dissent

I came across my notes from looking at Dov Joseph's 'The Faithful City - The Siege of Jerusalem, 1948', New York, 1960. (Lib. Congress 60-10976). I'm parking them here until they find a home.
Page 58. 4 January 1948. demonstrations ..."the Haganah has eaten our food" ... It was an ugly period.
page 159/60 one day after 14 May: threatening to shoot Reb Alter.
Page 162. 15 May Strong measures had to be taken; sometimes they could be persuaded to return to their houses only by threatening them with weapons [Jewish Quarter].
page 164. 18 May. The morale of civilians was broken the rabbis insisted that a message be sent to the Red Cross requesting arrangment of ceasefire. ... defenders forcibly restrained them. [JQ]
page 167. 20 May. "before the civilians got completely out of control." .. Haham Chamo demands contact with the French Consulate.[JQ]
page 168. formal commission set up on 22 June [into surrender of Jewish Quarter].
page 170. On 25 May ... there had been a serious rising of some of the inhabitants, demanding surrender. [JQ]
page 172. Rabbi Hazan wounded, possibly by one of the defenders, whilst trying to make contact with the Arab Legion under white flag.[JQ]
page 179. Yeshiva students forced to dig graves at gun-point.
page 231. July. No one was allowed to leave West Jerusalem without a special permit issued by the Jerusalem Emergency Committee..."strict measures."

Also from the Scotsman 15 April (Thursday) 1948. "A procession of several thousand Orthodox Jews marched through the streets of the Jewish Quarter with banners demanding peace and a "cease fire". The Orthodox Jews' statement said that Haganah troops tore down the banners and beat the demonstrators. Later a larger Haganah force, which arrived in buses, fired their guns in the air and "also beat the demonstrators without mercy, using their rifle buts."" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Padres Hana (talk • contribs) 19:42, 26 May 2009 (UTC) Padres Hana (talk) 19:48, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

James Cameron (British Journalist)

James Cameron, (British journalist), "The making of Israel", published by Martin Secker & Warburgh Ltd, 1976. SBN 436 08230 6. "The extreme Orthodox Hassidic groups who lived in the Mea Sharim and called themselves Guardians of the City vigorously opposed any sort of involvement with the resistance forces; many of the old rabbinical communities bitterly opposed the proposition of any sort of State of Israel that was not physically brought into being by Messianic dispenstation. (Many of them continue to reject temporal authority of the State to this day, and great has been the botheration thereof.) These old religious scholars were relentless in their opposition to the Haganah, Irgun or Stern alike, insisting that the duty of the male youth in schools was to recite the Scriptures and reflect on abstruse theology, not to scurry about usurping God's function with a gun." Padres Hana (talk) 22:03, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Difficulty widening dash

Hello @Pokechu22:. I was trying to make (1896-1964) appear as (1896–1964), but for some reason names written in Hebrew & Arabic, play havoc with attempts to edit dates. GoodDay (talk) 14:50, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@GoodDay: Huh. I ran into the exact same issue trying to edit it, where pasting in an en-dash or using the insert button on the editor caused the two dates to swap. ... actually, it's not even that, checking with cat /dev/clipboard | xxd, the text is still in the same order internally, and it also seems to be in the correct order on the actual page; it's only on the wikitext editor and diffs where it's backwards. This is on firefox, for what it's worth.

I looked at https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/bdi https://www.w3.org/International/articles/inline-bidi-markup/uba-basics https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr9/ and I have no idea if this is correct behavior or not. My best guess is that it's due to the hyphen-minus character being ambiguous and thus treated differently in that algorithm compared to the en-dash, but I have no clue for sure.

I've undone my reversion of your edit, since it seems like the page itself renders correctly. --Pokechu22 (talk) 18:18, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]