Talk:Mont Tremblant Resort
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[edit]I updated the links to include only the official websites of the ski resort, town, regional tourism association and race track. The other links were to individual accomodations companies which can all be linked to from the regional tourism site, and there are far too many to choose which to include on this page. 69.70.223.12 07:24, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
Moved
[edit]I seperated this page from the original village's page. There are two "villages", one is the actual village of Mont-Tremblant, the other is the resort's pedestrian village (which, if you've ever been there you'll know, is really an exercise in "how to pull money out of one's wallet", but that might be slightly PoV... :)
I moved the page to the new name and then re-created the old Mont-Tremblant, Quebec with just the village's information as almost all of the page's content dealt with the resort it just seemed the most appropriate.
I've also added some new information, and re-structured the article. CanadianGuy 04:47, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
I have to agree that the pedestrian village is a tourist attraction. I do not think that this is POV at all, actually. 66.167.91.66 17:00, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
- I don't have a ski magazine handy, but if you check one that has a feature on Tremblant, it'll tell you that. Someone should hunt one down so we can add that and have it cited. – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 05:17, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Mountain
[edit]There should be an article on the mountain itself... at Mont Tremblant perhaps? 76.66.201.179 (talk) 10:56, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
It's Mt. Tremblant, no Dealy Plaza
[edit]Editors' eagerness to post content on the Natasha Richardson incident is understandable, however the matter, however tragic, is just a passing incident at the resort, one of North America's oldest. In no way, shape, or manner was her death connected to Mt. Tremblant germanely: it was not due to trecherous terrain, or the resort's often icy conditions, or negligence on the resort's part: the woman fell while taking a lesson on a beginner slope.
This is not Dealy Plaza, infamous and entirely germane to observe as the site of U.S. President John F. Kennedy's assassination in November 1963 and the ongoing controversies regarding the shooting inextricably related to the arrangement and structures of that plaza. Please try to absorb and respect the difference. Wikiuser100 (talk) 10:59, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for your opinion, what do others think?67.93.25.195 (talk) 18:53, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- I have restored this "material". This is defineately not Dealy Plaza, but who ever said it was? This is a strawman arguement. If you want to say that this "material" hasn't risen to the level of notability that deserves mention in this article, we are all ears. This also involves the issue of recentism(is that a word?). How many people have died due to injuries at this ski resort or at ski resorts in general? How are other "place" articles that deal with accidental deaths of notable persons handled? What are the applicable policies or guidelines that would favor inclusion vs exclusion? I am a strong minimalist/deletionist but I still need conviencing on this. Anyways, hopefully others will comment or we could try a RFC. Thanks, Tom 03:11, 21 March 2009 (UTC)ps, I also tagged this article. If it is one of North Americas oldest resorts as you pointed out, it could be sourced better, especially the history.Tom 03:15, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Mentioning the resort in the Natasha Richardson article makes sense; mentioning the incident here seems trivial at the most. Please remove, it doesn't add information regarding the subject of the article. --Qyd (talk) 18:23, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Still not convenience, but getting there :) --Tom 19:06, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- The Dealy Plaza analogy is not at all straw man. It goes to the heart of the matter: the incident had nothing but coincidence to do with Mt. Tremblant as a mountain or resort. And indeed is a flagrant example of recentism, as discouraged at Wikipedia in its guidelines. I have reverted the restore, as we are seeking consensus here and it is not your position (Tom) to alter the status quo in the middle of that against where it was when the open forum began. More opinions are indeed encouraged.Wikiuser100 (talk) 14:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- Fine, but I would say that the material was added and then there was a dispute as to whether to include or not. Anyways, 6 to one, 1/2 dozen to another. I will not revert for now. Cheers, --Tom (talk) 17:18, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- The Dealy Plaza analogy is not at all straw man. It goes to the heart of the matter: the incident had nothing but coincidence to do with Mt. Tremblant as a mountain or resort. And indeed is a flagrant example of recentism, as discouraged at Wikipedia in its guidelines. I have reverted the restore, as we are seeking consensus here and it is not your position (Tom) to alter the status quo in the middle of that against where it was when the open forum began. More opinions are indeed encouraged.Wikiuser100 (talk) 14:42, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- Still not convenience, but getting there :) --Tom 19:06, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- It's not one of America's oldest resorts. Mount Tremblant, the original village may be, but the Richardson accident happened, I believe, at the privately owned Tremblant Resort, a mile or so outside of the original village. (The article confuses the 2: I have tried to disambiguate). Anyone visiting Tremblant resort would instantly see that it is new-ish: I found it a cross between a Disneyland village and the village in the original Prisoner TV show. It's olde, not old. YMMV. Bellagio99 (talk) 00:13, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Rather than have the "disclaimer" in the lead, the "history" section should be removed or rewritten since that covers the toen and not the resort it seems. I might try this. Tom (talk) 04:42, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- The village of Mont-Tremblant (not "Mount" Tremblant) already has its own separate article. so this article doesn't need to go into exhaustive detail about it. All we need here is a single sentence that links to the village's article. Bearcat (talk) 06:06, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- It's not one of America's oldest resorts. Mount Tremblant, the original village may be, but the Richardson accident happened, I believe, at the privately owned Tremblant Resort, a mile or so outside of the original village. (The article confuses the 2: I have tried to disambiguate). Anyone visiting Tremblant resort would instantly see that it is new-ish: I found it a cross between a Disneyland village and the village in the original Prisoner TV show. It's olde, not old. YMMV. Bellagio99 (talk) 00:13, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Adding recent events in a related article is a very tempting and common action for many users. What is important here is to bear in mind what is the project's main goal. The tragic death of a famous figure will not change what the Mt. Tremblant Resort is. If giant a meteor would crash right into the resort, then the article would probably have to be changed altogether because the resort would potentially cease to exist.--Mhsb (talk) 00:17, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Interesting you mention Dealy Plaza as, coincidentially, Mont Tremblant is where John's brother Robert met Ethel Skakel, something that is included in Robert Kennedy's wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.205.215.57 (talk) 01:46, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Labor/Labour relations
[edit]Is there notable enough for inclusion in the article? TIA --Tom (talk) 12:32, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
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