Talk:Monsoon Accessorize/Archive 1

Archive 1

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BetacommandBot (talk) 22:54, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

As the trademark was almost certainly inserted by their own marketing department, it's hard to imagine they will complain. Unless, of course, the article is rewritten to remove exagerration, hyperbole and just plain marketing BS. Heenan73 (talk) 09:22, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Monsoon in Australia?

The Monsoon website states Monsoon is in Austria but doesn't mention Australia (http://www.monsoon.co.uk/page/monsoonhistory/). The Wikipedia says the opposite. Does anyone know the truth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.203.214.180 (talk) 11:43, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Advert

This page reads like an advert. It should be rewritten from a neutral point of view. 212.182.173.163 (talk) 09:16, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I actually came onto the discussion page because I was reading it and thought "Gosh, this sounds highly biased in the company's favour" - lines like "Accessorize has a fast changing range that sells everything imaginable" - really? :/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.5.133.117 (talk) 19:58, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

This is a horrible, horrible piece of PR blurb. The only thing in its favour is that it is so awful that it will render the comapny a nightmare and encourage intelligent shoppers to avoid it. Dreadful. Heenan73 (talk) 09:18, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Upgrade

Upgrade completed.The Northaptonshire pins (talk) 13:19, 4 May 2014 (UTC)

Queen's Award?

The company claims to have received the Queen's Award in Enterprise for International Trade [sic], by which it presumably means the Queen's Award for Enterprise in International Trade. But the Queen's Award site does not list it among past recipients. Can anyone clarify? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:33, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Savar

OK so legal threats and edit warring aside, can someone justify the inclusion of this material in the article? It seems contradictory given they are supposedly in an alliance to improve worker safety and the paragraph does not even mention the company? §FreeRangeFrog^croak 17:32, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

I have removed that subsection since only one of the references so much as mentioned Monsoon, and that one reported that "Monsoon said it had never bought supplies from New Wave's factory in the building". Unless we find a source stating that Monsoon actually did business with those factories, that section doesn't belong here. Huon (talk) 18:15, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. It seems there was quite the pitchfork race after that unfortunate incident that ended up generating a lot of "controversy" sections in a lot of company articles. But we should be fair and stick to what sources we do have. §FreeRangeFrog^croak 18:33, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Agreed as well. I've done some searching and come up with the same result. Antandrus (talk) 18:36, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. As a representative of Monsoon, I can confirm that Monsoon has never produced items out of the Savar Building in Bangladesh. I have tried to edit this from the article but it is repeatedly re-inserted. Fully appreciate that Wikipedia is not for promotion, but the above content is entirely false. Can anyone advise on what is the best course of action? Thank you Clover321 (talk) 09:19, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Ethical Trading Initiative

The company claims to have been among the founding members of the Ethical Trading Initiative. The ETI website, however, says that the founding companies were "ASDA, Premier Brands, The Body Shop, Littlewoods and Sainsbury's". Can anyone clarify? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:31, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Revisions to page

I am a representative of Monsoon Accessorize and would like to propose a number of changes to the page to update out of date information – on financials and management – as well as provide additional information on the Group and its associated entities.

- Changes to store numbers and locations - Updating the financials of the company - Correcting the CEO position - Updating the store image - Introducing a more structured layout for the page

Copied below is a draft version incorporating the above changes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Marketsuser/sandbox

Marketsuser (talk) 11:13, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Marketsuser. It would be better if you suggested each individual change here, rather then a whole new article. You are paid to do this, we are not. And you should avoid terms like "renowned", which you use twice. See WP:PEACOCK for more details. I have left a message on your talkpage about WP:COI. Edwardx (talk) 11:54, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for declaring your COI and for using the talk page, Marketsuser, that makes everything easier for everyone. For the rest, please follow the advice of Edwardx – propose your changes here one by one (always with reliable sources, of course). You can use {{request edit}} to attract editor attention. Please be careful not to overtax the willingness or patience of volunteer editors. Thank you, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 12:04, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Request edit

I am a representative of Monsoon Accessorize and would like to propose a number of changes to the page to update out of date information – on financials and management – as well as provide additional information on the Group and its associated entities.

The overall request change is to introduce structure - breaking information into 'History' 'Current Activities' 'Monsoon Accessorize Trust' 'Monsoon Art Collection' and 'Controversies'.

 too many sections for too little content. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:46, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

MA Trust and MA Collection are new additions. The requests are to add to the information already on the page and include this as well in the overall categories.

History

The current background to the company including update store figures and their purpose built head office:

In 2016 the company had about 1215 stores in 62 different countries.

 unreferenced. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:46, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Today the head office is situated in Notting Dale and was built by Allford Hall Monaghan Morris

 Done

Current Activities

John Browett is no longer Chief Executive- this is Paul Allen. There is a press article to this effect from January 2016.

 Done

The company is majority owned by Founder Peter Simon.

Paul Allen, the former CEO of womenswear retailer Jacques Vert, is chief executive having held the position on an interim basis since 2014 and was appointed permanent in January 2016.

In addition there are more updated financials:

In the financial year to August 30, 2014, the group reported pre-exceptional EBITDA of £50.6m and group sales fell 7.8% to £509.1m.

 Done

The final two additions are of the associated entities, each of which are also properly sourced.

Monsoon Accessorize Trust

Founded in 1994, the Trust works to help disadvantaged women and children in Asia with projects on education, health and income generation.

 Done

Monsoon Art Collection

The Monsoon Accessorize head office is home to The Monsoon Art Collection, a collection of modern and contemporary art. It was established in 2000 and includes piece from artists such as Barbara Hepworth , L.S. Lowry and Andy Warhol.

 Done/ the content not supported by the references was not added. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:46, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

The information on The Forum for Private Business and HMRC issues could then be grouped under 'Controversies'.

 "Controversy" sections are not too well thought of here. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 14:46, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

--Marketsuser (talk) 10:11, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

References

@Marketsuser:I beefed up the article, and added your suggestions. I also moved the Ethical Trading Initiative to its own section, and corrected the Wiki-link to that article. However, I can't independently verify the current store and country count info you provided, so I had to mark it citation needed. If you get media coverage that can source this info, please ping me.Timtempleton (talk) 01:00, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed

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Just to clarify in case there's any doubt, here's a comparison of content added to the articleand that in the source:

Our article	The source
Its programs reach an estimated 10,000 women and children annually, and include programs in India to provide health care to remote villages, assistance to help cotton farmers convert to organic methods and a program in Afghanistan to help women make a living from their traditional silk embroidery craft.	Today, it funds projects reaching some 10,000 women and children every year – including a programme in India to provide health care in remote villages, another to help cotton farmers convert to organic methods and a scheme in Afghanistan to help women to make a living from their traditional embroidery craft.

That's clearly unacceptably close. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:26, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

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