Talk:Monlam Prayer Festival

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more examples to be put here?

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[2] there is also "the 3-week long Nyingma Monlam Chenmo for world peace."
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[4] "Ven. Tharthang Rinpoche, founder of the Monlam Chenmo and Light of Buddhadharma Foundation"
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When 2nd Dalai Lama revived the festival, who had stopped it and why?

Austerlitz -- 88.72.18.251 (talk) 19:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Drepung: An Introduction by Georges Dreyfus (April 10, 2006)

"It may be symptomatic of this state that the monks of Ganden did not take part in the Great Prayer Festival instituted by Tsongkhapa until the time of the Fifth Dalai Lama when the role of Ganden was increased, perhaps as a way to counterbalance the influence of Drepung and Sera."

"In 1479, the Ringpung established a Kagyü monastery in Yangbachen, near Lhasa. Geluk monks, particularly those from Drepung, the leading monastery of the tradition, saw this as a provocation, an encroachment on their zone of influence and attacked the monastery. The Ringpung forces retaliated and eventually occupied Lhasa in 1498. In a deliberately provocative act, they forbid the monks from Drepung and Sera to attend the Great Prayer Festival whose oversight had been their privilege since the early days of the festival."

"Having sided with the Nedong family, the Geluk seems to be on the losing side. I already mentioned the occupation that they had to endure from the forces of Tsang and the banning of Geluk monks from the Great Prayer Festival that had been initiated by their founder. In such a difficult time, the presence of a clearly defined holder of authority endowed with the prestige of a sacred connection with the past via reincarnation must have been seen as an important asset for the embattled Geluk school."

"Gendün Gyatso adopted a non-confrontational strategy, presenting an image of tolerance and inclusiveness. Such a strategy may have reflected his personal dispositions, but was particularly adapted to the delicate circumstances in which the Geluk tradition was. Lhasa had been occupied by the Ringpung forces, which had prevented Geluk monks from participating in the Great Prayer Festival. Gendün Gyatso ingratiated himself to the Ringpung rulers, persuading them to reverse this prohibition and succeeding in calming down the situation. He himself took part in the ceremony where he taught fifteen-hundred monks from Drepung and 300 from Sera. This achievement seems to have established him as the uncontested leader of Drepung, Sera and the Geluk tradition of his time, recognition marked by the establishment of his estate, the Ganden Palace (Ganden Podrang) in 1518 at Drepung."

and so on............

Austerlitz -- 88.75.197.122 (talk) 18:58, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mönlam also is a name, the text shows; "Such change already appears in the career of ’Bras spungs khri pa bdun pa, Mönlam Pelwa (1414-1491 CE)."

Some more information referring to 5th Dalai Lama and Tulku Drakpa Gyaltsen

source *Tales of Intrigue from Tibet's Holy City: The Historical Underpinnings of a Modern Buddhist Crisis Thesis by Lindsay G. McCune The Florida State University College of Arts and Sciences, see page 53.

Together he [Drakpa Gyeltsen] and the Dalai Lama presided over the Great Prayer Festival of Lhasa (lha sa'i smon lam chen mo), an important religious festival instituted by Tsongkhapa. The Fifth himself makes mention of this involvement in his autobiography when he reports that, in 1633 (when Drakpa Gyeltsen was about fourteen years old), "at the Mönlam Chenmo, the Tri Rinpoche and the Zimkhang Gong Trülku [came] and there were many thrones for those who came and cheerful spirits arose." Another source reports that Drakpa Gyltsen's throne was even positioned next to that of the Dalai Lama.

Is this -or some of it- important enough to be mentioned on the article's page?

Austerlitz -- 88.75.82.129 (talk) 16:46, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like quite trivial to me, or do you think that who sat on which throne centuries ago is essential for an explanation of the festival? In other words, please don't try to indtroduce the trivial Shugden controversy into each and every subject in the Wikipedia that is related to Tibet...rudy (talk) 23:10, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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