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Al Ameer son, hi and thanks for your edit. Davide Bianchi looks quoatble, but I am very unhappy with this specific passage, as he is quite equivocal and even misleading there. He writes of testimonies, but sends to Patrich 2011, 209–210 (note 721) instead of mentioning which, and my time & patience have their limits. I went and tried now, but his 2011 Caesarea book it is not. I suspect that Bianchi might have made a reference mistake here. Also, he writes of "Saracen troops", which is absolutely useless, as Saracen evolved from defining pre-Islamic Arabs, to being used for all Arabs. Regarding this: you were precise and wrote "Bedouin attack" and linked to Qays–Yaman war (793–796)#Aftermath, which helps me understand the context, but please, do add your source, as of now only Bianchi is indicated, and he doesn't offer this info. Thank you.

Maybe you also know how come that the Theodosius Monastery could be attacked, damaged/destroyed, and monks killed there at around the same time? I thought it had already been destroyed and abandoned after the consequent blows of the Sasanian invasion and the initial Muslim conquest, only to be rebuilt during the Crusades kingdom. But only if you have a source at the top of your head. Thanks again, Arminden (talk) 15:37, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Arminden: I will add sources and revise accordingly. As for Bedouin or Arab, the sources use these interchangeably and they are both accurate, but Bedouin is more specific (nomadic Arab tribesmen) as opposed to "Arab", which could one could take to mean the Abbasids and their various troops, including Arabs. If you feel "Arab" is more apt, feel free to restore. As for Theodosius, it would not be strange if the monastery was restored and attacked one or multiple times in the interim between the Sasanian invasion and the Crusades, but I have nothing concrete because I have not researched this. Al Ameer (talk) 17:13, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Al Ameer son, thank your, but all I want is to understand more of this period and you have many of the answers. So I certainly don't have any preference, just wanted to know if it's known from sources who the attackers/raiders were, and the context. As to the Theodosius Monastery: of course it could have been a constantly self-renewing phoenix, like Mar Saba, but I was under the impression that there had been a gap in its history between the 7th and 12th century. It could well be that that hasn't been the case. Arminden (talk) 22:43, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]