Talk:Mojang Studios/Archive 1
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Metagun
Do we consider Metagun as part of the games made by Mojang -- i.e. listed in the Games section?
- Oppose. It was made by Persson alone, and if anything belongs in his article. Neither Persson's blog, nor Mojang's website [1] list Metagun. Its only connection is the "copyright Mojang" label in-game (see 0:02) and that it was hosted on majang.com. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 17:04, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Pronunciation
Should it be noted somewhere the the way Persson pronounces the company name is with the hard english j, not with the soft 'y' sounding j as would be expected in swedish? Ref - http://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/29386706890 125.236.233.104 (talk) 01:44, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
- It probably should, though Twitter is not a reliable source. Perhaps IPA pronunciation of Swedish "mojäng"? — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 09:42, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
- Twitter or not, can you possibly get more of a reliable source than from the founder himself? Surely the fact that his account is verified by twitter can push it away from being considered as unreliable? I fail to see how that can't be the case... TheWyo (talk) 02:59, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
- OK, then quote the original question [2] too and make it clear this is a correspondence in reference. Otherwise, there is no context for Persson's tweet alone. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 08:28, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
- Twitter or not, can you possibly get more of a reliable source than from the founder himself? Surely the fact that his account is verified by twitter can push it away from being considered as unreliable? I fail to see how that can't be the case... TheWyo (talk) 02:59, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
That's how Notch pronounces it...doesn't mean it is official or that everyone should follow it. Vincent2128 (talk) 06:16, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
- Of course that's how everyone should follow it, the founder of the company says it's pronounced that way, then it's pronounced that way. You can't just start going around saying "Sony is pronounced Soon-eye!", because that's NOT the official pronunciation. Besides, this is for Wikipedia, and if the spelling is confusing about how to pronounce it, then it will show you how to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.76.246.174 (talk) 13:21, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
New Employee
I can't edit the article so I will post here. Please put Aron Neiminen on this page. He is responsible for making Minecraft for iOS and Android. Minecraftrules (talk) 22:55, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
What might we put in the "Role" column? Oh, and Aron Neiminen is responsible for porting Minecraft to iOS and Android. Vincent2128 (talk) 06:15, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
To tack on to that, if anyone adds Aron Neiminen to the employees list, remember to change the employee number in the table on the right. Vincent2128 (talk) 06:21, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Aron Nieminen is listed as Game Crafter on http://mojang.com/about/ so he should be added to the employee section because mojang recognizes him as part of their staff — Preceding unsigned comment added by Friendly Zombie (talk • contribs) 01:21, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
New Award
Mojang AB just won the March Developers' Showdown 2011! Anyways, should this be put on the Minecraft page, or on here? Minecraftrules (talk) 23:27, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
I think we should make a new section called "Awards" and put this in, using the link above as the citation/reference. Vincent2128 (talk) 06:13, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Scrolls website
Scrolls now has it's own website. Please add the link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.12.194.89 (talk) 01:15, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Added it. Vincent2128 (talk) 06:08, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Android vs Xperia Play
This was already mentioned on the Minecraft article, but I will repeat it again. The Xperia Play runs android, but will be getting an early release. As it is in the Minecraft article, we should either remove Xperia Play as a seperate platform, or merely list it in parenthesis. Zrowny (talk) 05:49, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
Lawsuit
Mojang is being sued by Bethesda for using the game name "Scrolls" because it may confuse consumers with "The Elder Scrolls" game. 64.254.244.103 (talk) 20:09, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
- [Blog]
- That's already on Notch's wikipedia page, but could be worth adding here since Scrolls doesn't have its own page (yet) due to lack of information about it. Xxcom9a (talk) 03:40, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Wrong release date
Minecraft will be released on 11/18/2011 and not on 11/11/2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aronseven (talk • contribs) 18:15, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
Minecraft for the Xperia Play has been released
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Please change the status of the Xperia play version of Minecraft from planned to currently available. http://mojang.com/2011/08/16/say-hello-to-minecraft-pocket-edition/ Grr02 (talk) 01:26, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
DD/MM/YY should be used instead of MM/DD/YY
To make it more clear to international readers, this should be either written as 2011-11-18 or as 18th November 2011 (or similar - American short hand dates make no sense outside of the US.)Blotulon (talk) 22:19, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
- Done Changed to YYYY-MM-DD, since it's in a table. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 08:20, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
No, it's changed to YYY-DD-MM, needs to be 2011-11-18! Blotulon (talk) 20:45, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
- Woops, my bad. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 21:05, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
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Employees
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Needs addition of employees Aron Nieminen, Mattis "Bomuboi" Grahm, and Henrik "Carnalizer" Petterson —99.141.176.118 (talk) 23:12, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Bility (talk) 21:29, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
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==Employees==
Name | Role | ||
---|---|---|---|
Carl Manneh | Managing Director | ||
Daniel "Kappische" Kaplan[1] | Business Developer | ||
Markus "Notch" Persson | Developer | ||
Jakob "JahKob" Porser[2] | Developer | ||
Jens "jeb_" Bergensten[2] | Back-End Developer | ||
Markus "Junkboy" Toivonen[2] | Art Developer | ||
Tobias Mollstam[2] | Web Developer | ||
Daniel Frisk[3] | Chief Architect | Henrik Pettersson | 2D Game Design |
Lydia Winters | Director of Fun |
Rararacharlie (talk) 13:32, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- Do you have a source for the addition? --Jnorton7558 (talk) 01:15, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
I know this has been answered already, but I do not thing that a list of employees will be necessary for this article, as the company is reaching a size in which such a list will become impractical. DarthBotto talk•cont 02:17, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
New game, wrong name
Please add Cobalt to the games section. Also, it's called Mojang AB now. --173.172.70.213 (talk) 02:07, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
- AB refers to the type of company. It's mentioned in the article, but it is not required in the title. Reach Out to the Truth 02:22, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
- Please do add cobalt though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.76.50 (talk) 00:44, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
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There needs to be a <br> before Jens Bergensten おやすみ (talk) 00:11, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
- Done Wagner u t c 00:19, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
Merger of Notch and Jeb's articles into Mojang
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I've decided to put Notch (game designer) up for merger. Jens Bergensten has been up for merger for three months now, so I decided to merge the two conversations into one RfC. Basically, me along with several people believe that while those two people are important, there is not enough info to warrant an entire article. On the other hand, they are popular game designers that have received a lot of attention. I'm not going to merge the original Jeb merger conversation here, you can see it at Talk:Jens Bergensten (they have mostly opposed it). Thanks, Nathan2055talk - review 17:22, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose - I am generally against article mergers for a great many reasons, not the least is that it tends to be an excuse to delete an article when you simply don't want it around, but know that you can't get consensus to get it deleted. In every case where I've seen a merge, content gets lost and in a few cases I've even seen even the mention of the merged topic be removed entirely. But that isn't entirely the scope of my opposition to this particular merge request.
I'll also note that in this particular case Notch has notability on his own outside of the scope of just talking about Minecraft and Mojang. He has received several prestigious awards and has stirred up some controversy that simply must be separated from Mojang. Mojang is moving on as a company and even though Notch is still the "majority shareholder" and perhaps the brightest star, you simply can't make the claim that Notch is Mojang and Mojang is Notch like might have been the case in the relatively recent past. Keeping the articles separate really does deal with the fact that there is a separate identity to the company and to this particular individual.
I can't say quite the same thing about Jens Bergensten, however even then his history is a bit different than Mojang and he does have some outside accomplishments. The issue here (which isn't even a problem for Markus Persson) is if significant secondary sources can be found which can be used to build these articles, and will additional sources likely appear over time about the given topic? Are there sources which focus on that topic (aka just about Mojang as a company or just about either one of these individuals) and not as a side tangent or casual mention? From the list of sources in those articles and from my own experience in reading articles in gaming magazines (general reliable sources not focused just on these people or companies) or interviews seem to support that such content can be found. As such, a merge of these articles simply should not happen. --Robert Horning (talk) 21:13, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
- Strong oppose - My reasoning is presented here. I think the nominator should do his homework on this matter. DarthBotto talk•cont 21:24, 01 April 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose both, with Notch being a no-duh. He created one of the most influential indie games these past few years, and has been given many awards, such as the BAFTA. Jens is not quite as important, but still deserving of an article. He is the lead programmer of the game now, and still has plenty of notability besides that fact. Blake (Talk·Edits) 22:35, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 2 June 2012
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0x10c is made by mojang, a source is needed so: http://www.0x10c.com/ I hope the copyright mojang down below the page is enough of a source. Lordcat33 (talk) 17:44, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
- That would be a primary source, not a third party source. Besides, I would not think that the fact that the "product" is made by the company is actually under dispute ... would you elaborate? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:31, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Notch AB
i have never heard of such a company or that it owns Mojang. Can anyone provide sources for that? Goodsmudge (talk) 10:24, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
- Not "Notch AB" but Persson appears to have registered "Notch Enterprises AB": [3] (purpose appears to be to hold shares in subsidiaries). Some more information is at [4] while Mojang AB is [5], although you have to pay to get more details. For Mojang AB : [6] (key financial data at the bottom). Companies registered by Persson: [7]. Some websites appear to have collated information form the 2011 annual report: [8]. -84user (talk) 13:53, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
SOPA blackout
Why is SOPA blackout a significant event in company's history to include it? It looks like a classic WP:NOTNEWS example -- a one-time event with no lasting significance (for the company). Mojang was just one of many, many companies that did this and the blackout did not affect their company, game development, staff, finances, etc. The mention in List of organizations with official stances on the Stop Online Piracy Act seems sufficient as they did not do any more than all the other companies. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 08:08, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- I would disagree in this case. While I will agree it was just one of many companies and organizations involved, it was a rare case of Mojang taking a political stand on a significant issue. Can you name other political issues that Mojang has stood up for and made a major stand against? I also strongly disagree that merely adding the company into that list you mention is sufficient for this information. I don't think the paragraph that exists currently needs to be expanded to any degree other than some minor cleanup, but as it is written certainly seems to fit within WP:UNDUE guidelines. This is verifiable and was widely talked about not only on the various Minecraft/Mojang game forums but also in the "gaming press" as well. As a part of the history of this company and a legitimate item to be mentioned in this article, I think it is very much encyclopedic. That an expanded section on the history of Mojang needs to be added into this article is certainly true, but that merely shows why this article isn't at a featured article standard yet. --Robert Horning (talk) 12:03, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- Rare case doesn't equal a notable case; it was similarly rare for most of the other companies. You have not addressed how Mojang did anything more than other companies or how this is of any lasting importance to company's development/games/staff/finances/etc. Widely talked about is not notable either or we would be including everyday celebrity gossips and such. But in the end I suppose this was given so much hype in press that we will end up including this regardless. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 13:52, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
- It is notable to the company and verifiable so far as they did temporarily "black out" some of their pages as a part of the overall protest. You are asking if this deserves to be written up as a completely separate article? Absolutely not! WP:NOTE however spells out that the standards of notability for creation of an article does not apply to content within an article, so even bringing up that sort of standard is to me completely misplaced. Within the context of this article and in the context of what is Mojang, this incident deserves to be mentioned in a brief sentence or two... which is exactly as it is right now. As for lasting importance to the company... it does indicate there are at least some things which Mojang will stand up for on a political basis and for somebody reading this article I think it would be completely appropriate to let them know that Mojang particpated in this particular protest. It doesn't really deserve its own section... so if you want to downgrade this incident and simply put it into the history section... be my guest. The history section of this article is horribly written, so it does deserve a revamp where a minor mention of SOPA would be completely appropriate with the references currently given for the topic. That multiple sources talked about this to the point it may even technically meet the criteria for WP:NOTE as a separate article should speak volumes about the fact it should be included in this article as well. --Robert Horning (talk) 03:55, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- "You are asking if this deserves to be written up as a completely separate article?" Of course not, I'm not sure how you concluded that. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 07:28, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- You are invoking notability standards that simply don't apply to a simple fact that is included within an article. Did Mojang participate in the SOPA protests? Is this verifiable from multiple reliable sources? Does adding a couple sentences about this protest violate WP:UNDUE? I just fail to see what the problem is with what is written about this protest in this article. The notability standard you are invoking here applies to the notability of a subject as a whole for inclusion within Wikipedia, not for adding a simple fact which applies to an already notable topic. --Robert Horning (talk) 12:36, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
- You seem to take my comment out of context and intended meaning and not address my main concerns. I already said that "this was given so much hype in press that we will end up including this regardless". I'm not sure what further arguing over words will accomplish. I voiced my opinion, you voiced yours. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 16:51, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
Images of the office
These may be useful. http://www.sverigessnyggastekontor.se/info/816/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.47.92.190 (talk) 01:36, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
When was Mojang founded?
Personn's article states late 2010, with a primary sourced tumbler as reference. This article states May 2009, and the reference is a PCWorld diary written by Mojang employees that never mentioned the founding at all let alone a 2009 date. -- ferret (talk) 16:45, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
The Swedish Business Registration Office, bolagsverket.se, and AllaBolag.se, a free source of information about Swedish companies, shows that the current Mojang AB (Organisationsnr: 556819-2388) was founded on 2010-09-17 by Markus Perssen. http://www.allabolag.se/5568192388/Mojang_AB --Egalino (talk) 13:27, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
The current Mojang AB is not the first Mojang company that Markus Perssen started. Markus and Rolf Janssen founded Mojang Specifications Handelsbolag (Organisationsnr: 969707-4483), a partnership, when they were working on Wurmonline. They later converted it into a limited liability company, Mojang Specifications ActieBolag. That company was renamed to OneTooFree AB when Markus stopped working on Wurmonline. --Egalino (talk) 13:27, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Semiprotected
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New logo
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The logo should be updated, it has recently changed to this one : http://i.imgur.com/umt1xCN.png
source here, from their graphic designer : http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/1r3e7z/has_anyone_else_noticed_the_new_mojang_logo_i/cdjjgo8 Silma Thoron (talk) 13:21, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
Not done: You need to upload the new logo and fill in the appropriate non-free information, then add a request to insert the file into this article. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 02:04, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
- It was already added [9]. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 09:50, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Mojang 13/14 end of year financial report
Have just read the end of year 2013/2014 financial report for Mojang. Seeing as i'm still a new member, could someone update the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darlo2k4 (talk • contribs) 23:46, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
Catacomb Snatch image
Does that image have really any relevance anymore? From what I can tell, it's just a relic from a deleted page. DARTHBOTTO talk•cont 09:44, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 15 September 2014
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When it mentions either of the parts where Mojang has been bought out by Microsoft, there also should be a reference to mojang.com, with a link right here: https://mojang.com/2014/09/yes-were-being-bought-by-microsoft/ 98.194.29.36 (talk) 23:59, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- Why? We generally prefer secondary sources. See WP:PRIMARY. Is there something in the mojang source that isn't in the other sources? Not done: request not in "change X to Y" form. Kendall-K1 (talk) 00:15, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
Mojang income statement
http://www.allabolag.se/5568192388/Mojang_AB
BOKSLUT & NYCKELTAL tip
2013-12 2012-12 2011-12
Antal anställda 28 23 9 Omsättning (TKR) 2 069 703 1 504 864 551 056 Res. e. finansnetto (TKR) 900 486 587 799 65 167 Årets resultat (TKR) 816 049 324 666 47 982 Summa tillgångar (TKR) 1 454 663 773 384 211 053
1px 1px
Vinstmarginal 43,93 % 39,30 % 12,07 % Kassalikviditet 227,04 % 266,16 % 149,50 % Soliditet 56,10 % 57,71 % 34,70 %
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Fler bokslut- och nyckeltal
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Microsoft deal
A Microsoft deal to buy out Mojang is in talks. I presume the article will need some updating, especially if it goes through.[10] --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 22:40, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
- I have added the news and references. It needs to stay as written until a deal is finalized though. Chambr (talk) 22:44, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
The deal has gone through, and Mojang's parent is now Microsoft--123.255.40.74 (talk) 22:54, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
- The deal has NOT gone through. Mojang and Microsoft have signed a plan for Microsoft to acquire Mojang, but until the deal is finalized, in late 2014 according to reports, Mojang is still a privately held company. Chambr (talk) 23:06, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
Parent corp
The parent corporation (in the infobox) is not Microsoft, and won't be until the deal closes later this year (if it does). Kendall-K1 (talk) 16:19, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- I agree. Did somebody try to implement that in the template? DARTHBOTTO talk•cont 16:44, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Everyone, cool your jets! The acquisition has not yet been finalized, so stop editing like you're time travelers from the future. When the deal is finalized later this year, then we can put in the information saying Microsoft is the owner. Until then, read this page and understand the facts. DARTHBOTTO talk•cont 17:48, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
- I am surprised by how many people ignore the note that is DIRECTLY ON EITHER SIDE OF THE PARENT DESIGNATION!!! DARTHBOTTO talk•cont 02:19, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
- Fairly typical I'd say. -- ferret (talk) 12:54, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
Putt-Putt Fun Center v. Mojang AB
Putt-Putt Fun Center v. Mojang AB never happened, Putt-Putt did threaten to sue but the case itself never occurred. 24.15.54.27 (talk) 06:23, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- Yeah, just came to the Talk page to mention the same thing. It looks like it was just a Cease & Desist... so it's a bit misleading to have it titled under "Lawsuits". It should probably either be removed, or the name of the sub-section could be something more generic like "Legal Issues". Cheers.
- -SColombo (talk) 02:23, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
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"Founder" Should be changed to "Founders" in the infobox as there are multiple founders. 2A02:8424:4B0:4D00:D11B:FBFC:F6F9:FFAF (talk) 09:06, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
Catacomb Snatch image
That image from Catacomb Snatch adds absolutely nothing of value to this article. Can we please remove it? DARTHBOTTO talk•cont 05:57, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
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Mojang has changed its name to Mojang Synergies AB! Joejosephayes (talk) 11:01, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 12:44, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
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Can somebody change the Start date and age template from the current {start date and age|2009} to {start date and age|2009|5} to correspond to Mojang's official founding date? 173.73.242.76 (talk) 21:56, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
- Done -- ferret (talk) 21:58, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
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Could somebody change "| foundation = {start date and age|df=yes|2009|1}" to "| foundation = {start date and age|df=yes|2009|5} (as Mojang Specifications)", since it was founded in May 2009 under the name Mojang Specifications?
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- Done -- ferret (talk) 19:18, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
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I want to change the article about Mojang AB, because there is wrong information, the company was founded at 2002 not 2009 and i wanted to correct that Danielgumprecht (talk) 16:33, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- Danielgumprecht, that is incorrect. As you can see in the very first sub-section of the history section, there were two different Mojangs. The first traded pro forma under the name "Mojang Specifications" from roughly 2003, and incorporated in 2007. Today, that company is known as Code Club AB and is, as far as I can tell, still active.
- When Persson then launched Minecraft in 2009, he re-used the "Mojang Specifications" name, though independent of Code Club AB. This new Mojang Specifications was incorporated in 2010 as Mojang AB and is the one we are talking about in this article. Code Club AB have their own article, which is linked to in said section and there is a hatnote to clear up possible confusion. Regards. Lordtobi (✉) 16:38, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
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The "Mojang studios" name seems to have been used even before 2020
If you look at the highlight reel in the Nintendo direct of E3 2019, when they showed Minecraft dungeons, look at the name of the company:"Mojang Studios" This was in June of 2019, almost a full year before the unveiling of the new logo. So... Serouj2000 (talk) 03:13, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- You can go back and see they were known as Mojang Studio back around the time of MS's acquisition. That said, without digging into any financials or filings, I suspect they used "doing business as" Mojang up until this week, and now they want to use "Mojang Studios" to reflect that they are multiple bodies around the globe. --Masem (t) 04:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- The company that develops Minecraft is (and remains) "Mojang AB", which was incorporated on 2010-09-17. Before this, Persson used the "Mojang Specifications" name, registered as a "single trader" (I couldn't retrieve the registration date for this, unfortunately). There is also "Mojang Synergies AB", a holding company. Mojang AB has just now assumed the trade name "Mojang Studios", but it did not have any other trade names (such as "Mojang Studio") before that.
- I suspect the naming in the Nintendo Direct is an error. There are also plenty of sources that give incorrect names: We had "Mojang Games", "Mojang Studio" (in 2011) and some sources continued using "Mojang Specifications" far beyond that name's existence (e.g. 2014). The sources that actually talk about the studio assuming names are pretty solid and give us the proper timeline (as already in the article), so there is no need for us to hassle with erroneous mentions. IceWelder [✉] 07:45, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
If it's really an error in the Direct, then how did they get the name correct in the previous year's E3? Serouj2000 (talk) 11:04, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- There are so many different reasons that this could have happened. Ever played Chinese whispers? There are also other discrepancies, such as 2019's listing "Activision Publishing, Inc." and "BANDAI NAMCO Entertainment America Inc.", while 2018's names "Activision" and "Bandai Namco". What's important is that a Nintendo Direct mentioning it once, incorrectly or not, is not indicative of a name change, nor would it be sufficient of a source to have changed the name here. Mojang itself and Microsoft have consistently used "Mojang" throughout, up until Sunday's rename. It is also unlikely that whoever edited the Nintendo Direct video "knew" more than everybody else; neither did VG247 in 2011 or GamesRadar+ in 2012. IceWelder [✉] 11:38, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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Reviewer: OceanHok (talk · contribs) 16:37, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Happy to review this! OceanHok (talk) 16:37, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Drive-by comment: Hi, I am I'm Aya Syameimaru!. Everything in this article must be the same as what the references say, so consider citation integrity as important. «Iias!:post□:,,.I» 02:00, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
- I would assume that this is the core value expected from every Wikipedia article. I wrote the largest portion in January of last year, so some fixes might be needed, but I'm confident that past me wrote the article properly. Regards, IceWelder [✉] 09:12, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
- Good luck, and have fun. «Iias!:post□:,,.I» 03:01, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
- The studio was founded by Markus Persson in 2009 - Can change to "It was founded by Markus Persson..." since the word "studio" is mentioned several times in a few sentences.
- Persson incorporated Mojang Specifications as Mojang AB in late 2010 in conjunction with Jakob Porsér and Carl Manneh. - A bit WP:JARGON. Can you make it more easy for common readers to understand? (wikilink or elaborate a little bit more is ok)
- Persson used assets and parts of the engine code he had created for RubyDung, an earlier personal project - without adequate context, I don't think it is necessary to even mention the name of his earlier project.
- presented first prototypes of the game through videos uploaded to YouTube, starting in May that year. - What is the signifiance of this? Did Minecraft's initial success came from this?
- followed by pre-orders for a full release being accepted from 13 June 2009 - why is this notable?
- to the offices of video game company Valve for "a cup of coffee" - this quote is redundant. Just say he went to Valve and met Gabe
- whom he had known for five years during their time at King.com, via Skype - I think "via Skype" is a little bit too detailed because their channels of communications probably didn't matter.
- In August, Mojang hired artist Henrik Pettersson - To reader, this was just a random name. Why was he a signifiant hire?
- with the announcement taking place on-stage at MineCon, the game's dedicated convention event - This drive-by mention of MineCon is a bit odd. MineCon to Mojang was probably a bit more important than that.
- An early version of the game was available rfon 16 December 2011 - "rfon"?
- Mojang chose to be acquired Microsoft due to their previous partnerships - "acquired by"
- Microsoft chief executive Satya Nadella also stated that the HoloLens had been a major factor in the acquisition - "also" is unnecessary. What is HoloLens? Readers may not really understand what it is.
- The PlayStation/Xbox/Nintendo versions of Minecraft were not developed by Mojang though. They should be removed.
- Overall, I think the article is in good shape, but I felt that the history section can be a little bit more interesting if you actually expand a bit more on how they develop games. For example, why did Mojang decide to make Scrolls or Dungeons? Why did Mojang decide to publish Cobalt? What was their involvement with Minecraft: Story Mode? What about Persson's split with Microsoft recently? A bit more on the background of Markus Persson would also be great.
Putting this on hold . OceanHok (talk) 07:17, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- @OceanHok: Thanks for your review. I have performed a few edits that should address your points above. Please let me know whether there are any issues left. IceWelder [✉] 19:58, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
- Excellent work! Promoting this to GA now. OceanHok (talk) 08:05, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks a dozen! DYK is forthcoming. IceWelder [✉] 08:19, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request: Acquisition date of "deal closure"
"It closed on 6 November and Mojang consequently became part of the Microsoft Studios label."
https://twitter.com/notch/status/530035246075740160 - tweeted on Nov 5th, the currently linked source also mentions Nov 5th, only the linked article from Polygon is the one which does NOT explicitly state a date, but it was published on Nov 6th - hence some editor assumed it's the date of the deal finalization. VADemon (talk) 01:14, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
UPD: Actually, it's just unclear wording. Whenever the deal was actually signed, it had come into effect on Nov 6th, but definitely wasn't "closed", which implies "signed" to me, on Nov 6th. Official announcement by Xbox' Head: https://twitter.com/xboxp3/status/530368089418784768 — Preceding unsigned comment added by VADemon (talk • contribs) 01:20, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
- Good call, allow me to check this. I wrote this part (as I did for the majority of the article) some 18 months ago but I believe that I went for the date Phil Spencer announced the deal as having closed "today" (November 6), which is quoted by Polygon. Since that post came sometime in the afternoon, it probably isn't a timezone thing either. The TechRadar source is generally accurate but I think that they may have been off by a digit for this one. I also just looked a bit further and found this great article from Wired, an excerpt from the authors' book on the game, which states:
It took several more weeks of formalities before ownership of Mojang could officially be handed over. When the papers were signed and the code properly reviewed and approved, a date was set. On November 6, 2014, Mojang would cease to exist as an independent company.
- November 6 is therefore probably correct. I will look to include the Wired excerpt in the article as soon as I get my hands on a computer. As for terminology, an acquisition "closing" means that the purchase has been approven by regulatory bodies and that the transfer of shares is complete. The date this is supposed to happen is usually locked down in the agreement the two companies signed, in this case on or just before September 15, when the acauisition was announced. Regards, IceWelder [✉] 03:25, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
- I amended the statement with the Wired article and reworded the "closed" sentence for clarity. Regards, IceWelder [✉] 05:33, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2020
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Change "Mojang AB" to "Mojang Studios." <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YosWmbHAr2g></ref> Change the old logo to the new logo. <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YosWmbHAr2g></ref> MauvsStuff (talk) 16:14, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: The logo requires a file upload. A youtube video is not a reliable source. The official website still has "Mojang Synergies AB". RandomCanadian (talk | contribs) 16:18, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Actually, they DID change their name and logo. SWPlaysMC (talk) 22:01, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
New (correct) logo
This is the correct Logo of Mojang AB: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mojang_Logo_2013.png
Please edit the article and replace the logo. Dandious (talk) 18:05, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
- I thought Mojang's logo passed the originality threshold with that non-simple-shape emblem; I didn't expect the file on Commons. I might be wrong, but I'm hesitant to take any actions. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 12:57, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
- The point of this discussion is, that there should be the original logo with the TRANSPARENT background and the CORRECT MEASURES. And not a fake picture, created with dafont. So please edit this logo to the original one: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mojang_Logo_2013.png — Dandious (talk) 19:37, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
Can we put the previous 2013 logo in the history tab similar to the Xbox Game Studios page? Ryanyasee (talk) 10:53, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Ryanyasee: If you are ever are writing on talk pages it's best to write your signature by putting ~~~~ at the end of your messages TurboSonic (talk) 14:21, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- @TurboSonic: Thanks! I was wondering how that worked. Ryanyasee (talk) 10:53, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
Requested move 18 October 2020
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The result of the move request was: Not moved (non-admin closure) (t · c) buidhe 02:07, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Mojang Studios → Mojang – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONCISE. e.g. the article for Nintendo isn't titled "Nintendo Company". 17jiangz1 (talk) 14:56, 18 October 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. (t · c) buidhe 22:57, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose. Mojang was rebranded in May and "Mojang Studios" is now the only WP:OFFICIALNAME. WP:NAMECHANGES applies. Nintendo is a bad comparison because "Nintendo" is the only branding in use by the company. IceWelder [✉] 15:00, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
- WP:NAMECHANGES basically states "we give extra weight to reliable sources written after the name change" and WP:OFFICIALNAME explicitly states that "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title". Even now, secondary sources including PC Gamer, The Verge, Kotaku, NY Times, and countless more refer to the organisation as simply "Mojang".--17jiangz1 (talk) 15:36, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
- Two of these sources talk about the acquisition that happened more than five years before the rebranding, The Verge uses "Mojang Studios". Other contemporary sources use "Mojang Studios"[11][12][13][14][15] or mix the usage of both.[16][17][18] Since both names are in wide circulation (post-rebranding), OFFICIALNAME takes precedence. IceWelder [✉] 16:55, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
- Don't think Wikipedia article title policy ever gives precedence to official names, only by the criteria in WP:CRITERIA. Per the example given in WP:CONCISE, both titles (Mojang and Mojang Studios are precise and unambiguous, but Mojang is the most concise title to fully identify the subject thus should be the preferred title even if it's not the official full name. --17jiangz1 (talk) 19:23, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
- I don't understand why we can't keep it, and redirect Mojang here. If we keep it, the starter sentence would be Mojang Studios, formerly Mojang. If we move it, it would be Mojang, now known as Mojang Studios. I believe that'd be confusing. Le Panini (Talk tome?) 13:14, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- The bolded name given in the first sentence doesn't have to match the title, in fact often it doesn't. BegbertBiggs (talk) 22:06, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- WP:NAMECHANGES basically states "we give extra weight to reliable sources written after the name change" and WP:OFFICIALNAME explicitly states that "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title". Even now, secondary sources including PC Gamer, The Verge, Kotaku, NY Times, and countless more refer to the organisation as simply "Mojang".--17jiangz1 (talk) 15:36, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
- I share opinion with the nominator. Sr. Knowthing ¿señor? 21:34, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose Considering Mojang still redirects here, this seems like WP:BUREAUCRACY. Maybe the move was premature, but reverting it would also be pointless.ZXCVBNM (TALK) 19:57, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose The official name is Mojang Studios, and Mojang already redirects here, so I don't see the issue. JackFromReedsburg (talk) 17:19, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Mojang as an "Independent Developer" in the first paragraph of the lead
AlphaMaltar2005 and IceWelder, I want to respectively step in to your recent edits. I disagree with having to explicitly define what an independent developer is in the lead of the article. The context of that paragraph makes it clear that initially Mojang was not owned by any other business at the time. The second paragraph explains how that Persson sold his share in Mojang, and that it became acquired by Microsoft. To me, this is clear enough to the readers, and if they have further questions, they can look towards the History section and Infobox for further clarification. JackFromReedsburg (talk | contribs) 04:41, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- I believe I made my positiom clear on this, both through my edits and by posting a lengthy message to their talk page several days ago. "Independent" is the default state of any company until bought. It does not need to be mentioned. The only edge case is being established as a subsidiary, which would be made clear early on. AlphaMaltar2005's edits are disruptive and they either did not read or plainly ignore their talk page. IceWelder [✉] 08:10, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
- I was unaware of your discussion in their talk page. In that case, then AlphaMaltar2005 needs to discuss it here before making any further changes to the lead. JackFromReedsburg (talk | contribs) 16:12, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
SVG Image
The article needs to be updated with a new SVG version, it has been mentioned on the PNG (current) version's image page.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Lbenjamin293 (talk • contribs) 17:44, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2021
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Minecraft earth now discontinued Thatlegowikiguy2021 (talk) 19:28, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. It looks like the article already says that. Please clarify what you want changed. RudolfRed (talk) 19:33, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:33, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
- ... that Mojang Studios received a cease and desist letter over user-created content in its game Minecraft? Source: "Putt-Putt sues Mojang over user-generated maps" (corresponds to #76 in the article)
- ALT1:... that Markus Persson, when he founded Mojang Studios in 2009, reused the name from a previous video game venture of his? Source: "Interview with CEO of Code Club AB: Developer of Sandbox MMO – Wurm Online" (corresponds to #7 in the article)
- ALT2:... that Markus Persson sold Mojang Studios to Microsoft because he was exhausted from owning Minecraft? Source: "The history of Minecraft – the best selling PC game ever" (corresponds to #4 in the article)
- ALT3:... that every employee who remained with Mojang Studios for six months after its acquisition by Microsoft received a bonus of $300,000? Source: "Everyone Who Stayed at Mojang After Microsoft Buyout Got a Big Bonus" (corresponds to #31 in the article)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Star Stations
- Comment: The order of hooks represents the order I came up with them, not any preference. I would also accept further hook proposals; there is a lot to know.
Improved to Good Article status by IceWelder (talk). Self-nominated at 08:49, 18 June 2020 (UTC).
- Reviewing... ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:00, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- — GA new enough, long enough, well-sourced (no bare references and immediately followed by an inline citation to a reliable source), no copyvio (only shows a quote), neutral, all of the hooks are properly formatted, short enough, hooky enough, and QPQ has been done. I prefer the ALT2 and thanks for improving the article, it was a nostalgic read. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:28, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- Reviewing... ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:00, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
- ^ Mojang. "Mojang doubles in size". GamrFeed. Retrieved 2011-04-26.
- ^ a b c d Rose, Mike (2011-03-01). "GDC 2011: Minecraft Developer Mojang Reveals Its Second Game 'Scrolls'". Gamasutra. Retrieved 2011-04-05.
- ^ "Twitter/Markus Persson". Markus Persson. Retrieved 2011-01-27.