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Direction of Merge

It appears that the content from Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed should be moved to Mohammad bin Zayed Al Nahyan (and references added during the process). The former article has no significant links to it and its title does not give His Highness' full name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlastairIrvine (talk • contribs) 13:40, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Mohamed Bin Zayed International Robotics Challenge

Is the Mohamed Bin Zayed International Robotics Challenge organized by him? http://www.mbzirc.com Syced (talk) 04:21, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

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Low article quality + NPOV Violation?

This article could use a lot of cleanup. It's full of awkward grammar and syntax, is ramblingly long in some parts, and generally doesn't meet the standards of a good article on Wikipedia. 2601:645:8101:5F30:2D07:598:5E8C:4226 (talk) 10:53, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

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Izzedine Ibrahim

Can an article with the headline "Mohammed bin Zayed's Dark Vision of the Middle East's Future" really be the source for claiming that "Sheikh Zayed inadvertently put an Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood Islamist named Izzedine Ibrahim in charge of his education."? --Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii (talk) 19:23, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Request for factual inaccuracies to be corrected on this page

I. The spelling of Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan’s name throughout this article. The Crown Prince’s name is currently misspelt throughout this article. It has been spelt with an extra ‘m’ in Mohammed, and should be written as Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, as per the correct spelling used on the Crown Prince Court website and across his official social media channels, such as his Twitter profile: [1] [2]


II. Economic policy positions and titles that are either out of date or need to be updated with current information, 3 In the first paragraph of the ‘Economic Policy’ section: • The Crown Prince is no longer the chairman of the Abu Dhabi Council for Economic Development (ADCED), the role is now held by H.E. Mohammed Ali Al Shorafa Al Hammadi. This reference should state the role is a past position, using the below source: [3]

• The Crown Prince is currently the Deputy Chairman, not the ‘Director’ of the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, the Sovereign wealth fund of Abu Dhabi: [4]

In the second paragraph of the ‘Economic Policy’ section: • The Crown Prince is no longer the head of the Tawazun Economic Council. This needs to be referred to as a past position. There is also a reference to his role as ‘the head of the UAE offsets group’ – this needs to be referred to in the past tense.

• He is referenced as the ‘chairman’ and ‘head of the Abu Dhabi Education Council’ (which is now known as the Abu Dhabi Department of Education and Knowledge), however this isn’t correct as the Principal doesn’t hold a formal role within this department, so this reference needs to be removed.


III. Support of the Arts section, 5.1 In the third paragraph of the ‘Support of the Arts’ section: • The construction of Guggenheim Abu Dhabi has been put on hold, so it would be logical to remove the following statement: ‘Al-Nayhan also stated that he was confident that the Guggenheim Abu Dhabi would be able to "accumulate a prestigious art collection" by the time of its opening in 2012’.


IV. Education and Innovation Initiatives, 5.3 In the second paragraph of the ‘Education and Innovation Initiatives’ section: • The Crown Prince is no longer chairman of the Emirates Center for Strategic Studies and Research (ECSSR) – this position is currently held by Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahyan. [5]


V. Honours, 10 Is it possible to include the awards and honours referenced and cited on the Crown Prince’s Arabic language page on the English language page? The full list is outlined here, with relevant references: https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%AD%D9%85%D8%AF_%D8%A8%D9%86_%D8%B2%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%AF_%D8%A2%D9%84_%D9%86%D9%87%D9%8A%D8%A7%D9%86#%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%B2_%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%88%D8%B3%D9%85%D8%A9

I am unable to update this page myself as I have a professional association with the Crown Prince, Mohamed bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, so I am declaring my conflict of interest here Ibrahimakki (talk) 11:05, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://www.cpc.gov.ae/en-us/thecrownprincecourt/Pages/default.aspx
  2. ^ https://twitter.com/MohamedBinZayed
  3. ^ https://www.adced.gov.ae/en/About/Message-from-the-Chairman
  4. ^ https://www.adia.ae/en/investments/governance/board-of-directors
  5. ^ https://www.ecssr.ae/en/board-of-trustees-2/
Partially Done I, II (only first edit for other two, independent references are needed) and IV. Suggestions III and V are not done as the removal request is not sound enough and the honors section is not clear. Please see this section which suggests to clearly mention where you want to make the edit and what you want to substitute/remove/add and why. Chirota (talk) 16:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for fixing the requested factual inaccuracies and for providing guidance on further edits. Please see below for a revised list of changes, with additional references:

The spelling of Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan’s name in two remaining sections. The Crown Prince’s name still has a number of mis-spellings throughout the article. It has been spelt with an extra ‘m’ in Mohammed, and should be written as Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, as per the correct spelling used on the Crown Prince Court website and across his official social media channels, such as his Twitter profile: [1]; [2]

Remaining mis-spellings: - Economic policy section - Honours section

In the second paragraph of the ‘Economic Policy’ section: • The Crown Prince is no longer the head of the Tawazun Economic Council. This needs to be referred to as a past position. Suggested text: “In addition, he was the head of the Tawazun Economic Council, formerly known as UAE offsets programme bureau. That post is now held by Tareq Al Hosani.” o Reference: Tareq Al Hosani is the CEO of the Tawazun Economic Council: [3] and [4]

• There is also a reference to his role as ‘the head of the UAE offsets group’ – this needs to be referred to in the past tense. o Please change “Al-Nahyan is involved with…” to “Al-Nahyan was involved with…” o Reference: as per previous edit submission

• He is referenced as the ‘chairman’ and ‘head of the Abu Dhabi Education Council’ (which is now known as the Abu Dhabi Department of Education and Knowledge), however this isn’t correct as the Crown Prince doesn’t hold a formal role within this department, so we kindly request that this reference is removed. o Reference: Sara Musallam is the current Chair of the Abu Dhabi Department of Education and Knowledge. Links here: [5] and [6]

As previously stated, I am unable to update this page myself as I have a professional association with the Crown Prince, Mohamed bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, so I am declaring my conflict of interest here Ibrahimakki (talk) 19:03, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

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Request for further factual inaccuracies to be corrected on this page.

Incorrect spelling of Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan’s name in two remaining sections.
The Crown Prince’s name still has a number of mis-spellings throughout the article. It has been spelt with an extra ‘m’ in Mohammed, and should be written as Sheikh Mohamed bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, as per the correct spelling used on the Crown Prince Court website and across his official social media channels, such as his Twitter profile

Remaining mis-spellings:
- Economic policy section
- Honours section

In the second paragraph of the ‘Economic Policy’ section:
The Crown Prince is no longer the head of the Tawazun Economic Council. This needs to be referred to as a past position.

There is also a reference to his role as ‘the head of the UAE offsets group’ – this needs to be referred to in the past tense.

He is referenced as the ‘chairman’ and ‘head of the Abu Dhabi Education Council’ (which is now known as the Abu Dhabi Department of Education and Knowledge), however this isn’t correct as the Crown Prince doesn’t hold a formal role within this department, so we kindly request that this reference is removed.

As previously stated, I am unable to update this page myself as I have a professional association with the Crown Prince, Mohamed bin Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan, so I am declaring my conflict of interest here Ibrahimakki (talk) 12:57, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://www.cpc.gov.ae/en-us/thecrownprincecourt/Pages/default.aspx
  2. ^ https://twitter.com/MohamedBinZayed
  3. ^ http://wam.ae/en/details/1395302627579
  4. ^ https://gulfnews.com/business/tareq-al-hosani-appointed-ceo-of-tawazun-economic-council-1.2073581
  5. ^ https://www.khaleejtimes.com/news/education/free-uae-schooling-for-covid-hit-students-how-it-works
  6. ^ https://gulfnews.com/uae/education/abu-dhabi-gives-free-education-to-579-students-financially-hit-by-covid-19-1.1617864604845

Mass-removal of reliably sourced content on authoritarianism

The editor 'Gorebath' removed all content[1] from the article about the authoritarian nature of Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan's regime. Gorebath falsely claimed, "WP:SYNTH citations refers to UAE, not Mohammed bin Zayed." and "this article is about Mohamed bin Zayed, not the form of governance in UAE, WP:SYNTH." when all the articles explicitly mention Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan and say his regime is authoritarian. This is similar to what Gorebath did on the Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum page where the editor ended up being 10 v 1 on whether to use reliably sourced content on the nature of Al Maktoum's regime.[2] Snooganssnoogans (talk) 09:34, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

both source [3] and [4] that your provided do not describe Mohammed bin Zayed as authoritarian. Per previous edit, he is described as an "autocrat" by the New York Times. Adding sources that talk about the political nature of UAE government or Human rights in the UAE into a biography article is not appropriate. This is something which you have also done in Fidel Castro article and you've been reverted multiple times. We aim not to push negative or polemic statements on individuals in wikipedia and remain neutral. Feel free to add authoritarian when Mohamed bin Zayed is described by that by a cited source, not from your own synthesized research. Gorebath (talk) 02:04, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Scholarly and journalistic sources not only describe MBZ's regime as authoritarian but they point to MBZ's role in making the UAE more authoritarian.[1][2][3][4] If you are true to your word (if sources describe MBZ as authoritarian, it belongs in the article), I assume that you will now restore the content that scrubbed from the article? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 03:02, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
If you want to add that Mohamed bin Zayed build the Emirates into a kind of Middle Eastern Singapore: rich, efficient, and authoritarian, does not embrace Shura or ijma in quite the same way as his predecessors or suspended serious forms of consensus based political systems, or deals with societal demands through repression and force rather than engagement I have no problem with. To directly call him authoritarian (such as NYT calling him autocratic) when not of the aforementioned sources have directly called him as such is ingenuous. Also, to completely form a whole paragraph describing "authoritarianism" and add sources which talk about politics of UAE and human rights as well as WP:CHERRYPICKING from your aforementioned added sources and attribute it to this BLP is inappropriate. Gorebath (talk) 04:06, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
The text never said that he personally was authoritarian (whatever that would mean). It said he ruled an authoritarian regime, which all the sources support, and which is a basic uncontroversial claim. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 04:37, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
Your added section title "authoritarianism" certainly did call him authoritarian. Gorebath (talk) 04:55, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
It was a sub-section under "Domestic policy" that clearly described him as the ruler of an authoritarian regime. Do you also think that the section "Economic policy" means that he is personally an economy policy? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 05:14, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "UAE's Prince Mohammed Bin Zayed's Growing Influence On The U.S." NPR.org. Retrieved 2021-07-13.
  2. ^ Nast, Condé (2018-04-02). "A Saudi Prince's Quest to Remake the Middle East". The New Yorker. Retrieved 2021-10-06. Mohammed bin Zayed, of the United Arab Emirates. Bin Zayed, or M.B.Z., is the crown prince of Abu Dhabi, the most politically important of the country's seven emirates. Flush with revenue from oil and from the booming city-state of Dubai, M.B.Z., the country's de-facto leader, has helped build the Emirates into a kind of Middle Eastern Singapore: rich, efficient, and authoritarian.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  3. ^ Davidson, Christopher M. (2021-02-25). From Sheikhs to Sultanism: Statecraft and Authority in Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Hurst. pp. 13–14. ISBN 978-1-78738-393-7. Neither MBS nor MBZ appear to embrace Shura or ijma in quite the same way as their predecessors, and all serious forms of consensusbased political systems have ostensibly been suspended, or have even collapsed. Most definitely, a marked and rapid intensification of autocratic-authoritarianism in Saudi Arabia and the UAE seems to have occurred... what headline data exists on the comparative state of democracy (or rather authoritarianism) in Saudi Arabia and the UAE strongly suggests there have been recent and substantial efforts to tighten up almost all remaining political and civic freedoms.
  4. ^ Krieg, Andreas (2019-03-01). Divided Gulf: The Anatomy of a Crisis. Springer. pp. 96–98, 101. ISBN 978-981-13-6314-6. MbZ envisaged the creation of a new Middle Eastern state... Statecraft would be the prerogative of the autocratic, centralized ruler whose transactional relationship with his subordinates was supposed to be governed by both means of accommodation and repression. The ideal strongman, from MbZ's point of view, was in control of the security sector, both military and law enforcement, and governed over a society emancipated from religious conservatism and empowered by capitalist market structures... MbZ's state looked increasingly like a fierce state, i.e. a state that Ayubi defines as dealing with societal demands through repression and force rather than engagement. Abu Dhabi's paranoia over political dissidence was further fuelled by the developments of the Arab Spring to which MbZ internally reacted by further curtailing the freedom of speech, thought and assembly in the country... MbZ's fierce state has moved against any civil society activism in the country outside state control.

Rfc: Does he rule an authoritarian government?

There are two questions:

  1. Should the lead to the article include one or two sentences that Mohamed bin Zayed Al Nahyan (MBZ) heads an authoritarian regime and he has overseen restrictions of political and civil rights in the UAE?
  2. Should the body of the article detail the nature of MBZ's regime, including the authoritarianism, the absence of free elections, free speech restrictions, the absence of free media, repression of critics, and criticisms by human rights organizations about torture, arbitrary detention and forced disappearance of citizens and residents? Snooganssnoogans (talk) 05:07, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Survey

  • Yes to both. It is uncontroversial in reliable sources (including academic sources) that MBZ is the head of an authoritarian regime. Not only does he head an authoritarian but he has overseen a shift towards greater authoritarianism and repression. Recognized expert Christopher Davidson documents this transformation in his detailed 2021 book about MBZ, From Sheikhs to Sultanism: Statecraft and Authority in Saudi Arabia and the UAE (Hirst, pp. 13–14), as well as points to academic datasets that substantiate the claim.[1] Another recognized expert, Andreas Krieg, documents a similar transformation in his 2019 book, which includes a detailed depiction of MBZ's political ideology (strongman authoritarianism).[2] Similarly, reliable sources such as NPR ("although the UAE may be liberal on some social or cultural issues, it's certainly authoritarian")[5] and the New Yorker ("M.B.Z., the country’s de-facto leader, has helped build the Emirates into a kind of Middle Eastern Singapore: rich, efficient, and authoritarian") characterize MBZ's as the ruler of an authoritarian regime. Aside from academic sources and news sources, human rights organizations have documented that MBZ heads a repressive authoritarian regime.[3][4][5]. In other words, there is no dispute in academic and other reliable sources whether MBZ heads an authoritarian regime. I fail to see why this content should be kept out of the body and why the lead should obscure that the subject of the article is not only an authoritarian ruler, but has made his country more repressive. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 05:07, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Davidson, Christopher M. (2021-02-25). From Sheikhs to Sultanism: Statecraft and Authority in Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Hurst. pp. 13–14. ISBN 978-1-78738-393-7. Neither MBS nor MBZ appear to embrace Shura or ijma in quite the same way as their predecessors, and all serious forms of consensus based political systems have ostensibly been suspended, or have even collapsed. Most definitely, a marked and rapid intensification of autocratic-authoritarianism in Saudi Arabia and the UAE seems to have occurred... what headline data exists on the comparative state of democracy (or rather authoritarianism) in Saudi Arabia and the UAE strongly suggests there have been recent and substantial efforts to tighten up almost all remaining political and civic freedoms.
  2. ^ Krieg, Andreas (2019-03-01). Divided Gulf: The Anatomy of a Crisis. Springer. pp. 96–98, 101. ISBN 978-981-13-6314-6. MbZ envisaged the creation of a new Middle Eastern state... Statecraft would be the prerogative of the autocratic, centralized ruler whose transactional relationship with his subordinates was supposed to be governed by both means of accommodation and repression. The ideal strongman, from MbZ's point of view, was in control of the security sector, both military and law enforcement, and governed over a society emancipated from religious conservatism and empowered by capitalist market structures... MbZ's state looked increasingly like a fierce state, i.e. a state that Ayubi defines as dealing with societal demands through repression and force rather than engagement. Abu Dhabi's paranoia over political dissidence was further fuelled by the developments of the Arab Spring to which MbZ internally reacted by further curtailing the freedom of speech, thought and assembly in the country... MbZ's fierce state has moved against any civil society activism in the country outside state control.
  3. ^ "United Arab Emirates: Freedom in the World 2020 Country Report". Freedom House. Retrieved 2021-07-13.
  4. ^ "Amnesty International condemns UAE crimes against its people". Middle East Monitor. 2020-02-20. Retrieved 2021-07-13.
  5. ^ "UAE: Obama Should Press Crown Prince on Rights". Human Rights Watch. 2013-04-15. Retrieved 2021-07-13.
Qualified Yes to 1, unqualified Yes to 2 As this is a BLP, we should state that observers have described him and his regime as authoritarian etc. or that it is characterized as such, much as we do at Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum. As for 2, this should clearly be covered in the body. BSMRD (talk) 23:24, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
  • No, with a comment There's no issue with stating that observers have described/characterized that the UAE is authoritarian, but you need to be careful on adding polemic statements in a BLP article. This is a recurring theme which I've noticed you've been doing, see edits: [6] or [7] or [8] etc... Using sources from Human rights in the United Arab Emirates and Politics of the United Arab Emirates which describe the state and not the individual in question to emphasize that bin Zayed is authoritarian isn't appropriate. Bin Zayed is described as the "de facto leader", and not the head of government. Feel free to add that Mohammed bin Zayed is described as an autocratic leader or has moved against any civil society activism after the Arab spring as has been described by RS. Gorebath (talk) 13:22, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Yes to 1, one sentence should be enough considering the length of the lede. Re 2, the article is about MbZ so it should describe his actions or influence on the UAE politics rather than simply describing them. Alaexis¿question? 08:26, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Yes to both, but with the same caveat that BSMRD mentions (i.e., that we should go with "observers have described..." rather than an unqualified description of him as authoritarian). ModernDayTrilobite (talk) 21:33, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Unqualified Yes to Both -- I would also like to comment on the "observers have described..." suggestion. First, "observers" feels like a weasel word here-- I know that these phrases are more acceptable in a lead than in an article body, but "some observers" does not give these specific observers the weight their research and methodology would suggest. I feel that attributing a statement of fact to what some people say is only appropriate when there is dissent or room for argument within the reliable sources, or if the sources are not authoritative-- if the only sources calling his regime authoritarian were journalists for example, that might lead to qualifying the statement. But we have peer reviewed academic literature here, all unanimous in stating this as fact, not opinion. Wikipedia reflects what the sources state. The sources don't really allow wiggle room here. Fieari (talk) 00:27, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Unqualified Yes to both - There is plenty of evidence to support this. Many activists and dissidents remain detained to this day without a fair trial and in inhumane conditions.[9] WatABR (talk) 03:05, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
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