Talk:Mogollon Monster

Clay Thompson

Is there any reason to include the view of Clay Thompson? As far as noted in the article, he has zero expertise in the subject. Why should his view be quoted at all? Plazak (talk) 18:01, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

The article needs quite a bit of work. I don't think Clay needs mentioning and rewriting that section, and the rest per our standards would be helpful. Most of the sections can be combined and eliminated into a more standard article format. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:53, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Photo needed

If someone can get a photo of the Mogollon Monster and add it to the article, that would help a lot. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

Since Jedijoe82 (talk) didn't find one there probably isn't one, he seems well informed. Perhaps an artist's rendition would be a plausible choice.--Timpicerilo (talk) 02:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

There is a lifesize woodcarving depicting the Mogollon Monster at the "The Burly Bear" shop in Pinetop-Lakeside, Arizona. An image of it can be found at a blog here (closeup). If we can get permission for that image (and then crop it a bit), or if someone can go snap another (better) picture of this, it just might work for the article. -- 208.81.184.4 (talk) 17:21, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

There are both photos and computerized pictures of the mogollon monster at www.mogollonmonster.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.15.255.227 (talk) 07:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Massive POV violation

This article is written from an extreme pro-Bigfoot fringe belief viewpoint. It only cites a single scientist as opposed to the idea, when it is clearly the overwhelming belief of scientists (as demonstrated on the Bigfoot article many times) and outright claims that the monster *is* certain sizes, etc. This needs a dramatic rewrite in order to comply with our WP:NPOV policy. DreamGuy (talk) 18:11, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

OMG dreamguy you're such an idiot; Crypto creatures are not an exact science. It only violates WP:NPOV policy in your childish eyes so get over it or grow up! I don't believe in ghosts or bigfoot but I apreciate the article. --Botdance (talk) 02:32, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

No personal attacks allowed, and "crypto creatures" aren't science at all. DreamGuy (talk) 20:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

From the begining to the end it is repeated numerous times that it is not real. Starting with: No physical evidence found, nothing to do with science, and that the article is of fiction and folklore. That's more than enough to get the point across, let them tell the story!--Botdance (talk) 10:37, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Simply being of the opinion that a page is not neutral is not sufficient to justify the addition of the WP:NPOV tag. Tags should be added as a last resort this one must be removed.--Botdance (talk) 19:59, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Guess you don't understand the purpose for tags in the first place. DreamGuy (talk) 20:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

So it was done, dreamguy you need to stop your tag happy ventures or you may be blocked from Wikipedia permanently; you have already been warned by Lar(talk).--Botdance (talk) 23:15, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Lar gave a warning about something else entirely, and he was wrong. And the idea that I would be blocked "permanently" for adding a tag to an article just shows a complete and total lack of understanding of how things work here. Considering that you started out your response here by some pretty outrageous personal attacks, I think you'll find that you're the one who's at risk for being blocked. You also need to seriously brush up on our WP:NPOV and WP:RS policies. DreamGuy (talk) 20:32, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Lar has you figured out, he most certainly was not wrong. I can see historically how you operate, you try to act like some kind of boss of everyone on Wikipedia; well you’re not! In fact you’re not superior over anyone else that contributes to Wikipedia. It’s no secret that you tried to delete this article and didn’t get your way so now you want to make it miserable for everyone that works on this article; like some kind of spoiled brat.--Botdance (talk) 02:04, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

This comment has nothing to do with the article and is just a personal attack. You were warned about that, but continued both here and on my talk page. I see now that an admin has blocked you for a week for this behavior, so don't say I didn't try to warn you. If you come back please stick to discussing the article and our policies. DreamGuy (talk) 12:50, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

I think everyone needs to review the rules here at Wikipedia. They’re not there to be manipulated to suit someones needs; try applying all of them. We must incourage users to not be afraid to edit; anyone can edit this page. We encourage everyone to be bold not discourage them from participating . If you find something that can be improved and make it better - for example, spelling, grammar, rewriting for readability and removing unconstructive edits by all means feel free to do so. But we must allow them to tell their story. I’m not about to stand back silently in the corner and let this article be ruined by anyone over a vendetta or any reason!--Botdance (talk) 18:21, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

And now you've been blocked permanently. Don't say I didn't warn you. DreamGuy (talk) 16:47, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

There is a dedicated site available at www.mogollonmonster.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.15.255.227 (talk) 07:06, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Bigfoot shelters found on the rim

Camp on the rim often. Have found a Bigfoot shelter twice. Not used for awhile, the latest was this weekend. I dont see an option to add pics tho. 2600:387:A:982:0:0:0:39 (talk) 04:42, 5 April 2022 (UTC)