Talk:Moche culture

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Pyramids

What would be the best name for an article to discuss Moche pyramids [1]? gren 21:38, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Hi Grenavitar, add some stuff here, it's a great starting point and if we get enough info we can expand it into its own article. --194.66.208.11 09:58, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

New Date

Hi, a new report shows that these people date back to 100 BC.

http://www.laht.com/article.asp?ArticleId=346186&CategoryId=14095

Suggest updating the main page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.119.237 (talk) 15:39, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Dating issues

Moches always had trouble finding side chicks. I've seen we've had a bit of a conflict with the old BCE/BC and AD/CE issue. I added the AD BC stuff to a page that already had BCE and CE, there is no official wikipedia guidelines on this but i feel we should stick to one format (blame me for the trouble). so we have to decide whether to stick with the original BCE CE or AD BC, i prefer the latter but the page started on the former and would probably go for that. --194.66.208.11 09:58, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

You almost always use CE/BCE for archeological articles. That is the dating used in the literature (except for some of the things for a popular audience of course) and using it avoids the mental conversion. Of course, an exception might be an archeological dig from the middle ages in Europe. But it is almost always used when talking about pre-Christian cultures. But don't sweat it, the content is much more important than these stylistic things. -- Zenyu 14:02, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

BTW I am very impressed that you use AD correctly :) -- Zenyu 14:15, July 28, 2005 (UTC)

Updating the article

Hey folks,

I don't know if anyone is still working on this article, but I'm an archaeology student who will be doing field research in the Moche valley this summer (2006), and I'm interested in seriously expanding the entry here. If someone's working on it now and wants help, or wants to give me a hand, let me know. It could turn into quite a project; there's a lot of published literature on this topic and its various sub-topics.

I'll start work on it in the fall (Sept'06) when I get back and things calm down some.

Explicitness

I think this article should feature a map of the extent of the Moche civilization.

Ai apaec

I've read about a Moche deity called Ai Apaec. Does anyone know what is his relation to the lord of sipan? Im not an expert on the subject.

I'm curious as to where you read about Ai Apaec. The Moche didn't have a writing system, and scholars aren't entirely sure what language they spoke, so it was my understanding that no one knew the actual names of Moche deities. Was this an unoffical name someone has decided to use?

There are many references about the god Ai Apaec. I found these links in a google search but there are many others:

• http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://www.deperu.com/arqueologia/aiapae.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dai%2Bapaec%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D

• http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=es&u=http://diosesdelperu.blogspot.com/2005/03/ai-apaec-el-decapitador.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmitologia%2Bandina%2Bai%2Bapaec%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D

But I don't have any sources that are officially academic. I wonder if Ai Apaec is just a name from New Age spirituality and not archeological.

Moche or Mochica Culture

I have reverted it again to Moche and here is why: Virtually all the links are to Moche because that is how this culture is known in the English language. Also Google shows 10,000 links for Mochica Culture but 2.8 million for Moche. Clearly the primary name. Rmhermen 23:20, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Still true. If I am not mistaken, Mochica is favored only regionally and is less common in the rest of the world. This Peruvian site introduces them as "the Moche or Mochica culture" then favors Mochica. However, this is English WP, and English sources do overwhelmingly favor Moche. This Spanish dictionary calls them "Los Moches" and lists Mochica as an adjective and language. Ruodyssey (talk) 18:06, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

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Moche capital claim

Removed the confusing claim that the Huacas del Sol and de la Luna are the capital. The source for this claim (a blog that is rather more promotional than scholarly), actually doesn't support such a statement but says that the two structures are the center of the culture. In any case, they are buildings, not cities. The site is called Moche, and I replaced the building names with this. Also, the article clearly states that there is disagreement about the political unity of this cultural group; in light of this, perhaps the "capital" line of the infobox should be reconsidered. Richigi (talk) 22:28, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Proposed move

Would it be possible to move this page to Moche culture, without the parantheses? For simplicity's sake and in keeping with other articles, such as Cara culture, Chachapoya culture, Chancay culture, Chimú culture, Killke culture, Paiján culture, Sican culture, Virú culture, Wari culture, etc. etc. -Uyvsdi (talk) 05:20, 25 November 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi

Agree. Parenthesis are to be avoided and article titles uniform (if possible). Dentren | ^Talk 16:37, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

no American "tigers."

Okay, it's a quote, but depictions of the Decapitator don't show "tiger's mouth," because the Americas has no tigers. It seems that it's a jaguar or maybe a dog's mouth.

2601:18A:8101:2029:BDA0:5574:6663:6005 (talk) 02:59, 4 February 2016 (UTC) Michael Christian

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Smelting bronze by the Moche, addition?

I noticed in the wiki page article on pre-Columbian metallurgy in the Americas that the Moche are credited with being the only indigenous culture that were fully able to smelt metal into bronze before Columbus arrived. If this is accurate, and it sounds true, it certainly should be included. I’m not the best candidate for the task since my knowledge of the subject is limited and had never heard of the Moche prior to the reference mentioned. An interesting people and something of an accomplishment that should be mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sychonic (talk • contribs) 21:57, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Student Editors

Hello! I and Beck Wollen are student editors for our Archaeology course. I just wanted to let you all know that I will be mainly focusing on editing the agriculture and irrigation themes of the article and touching a bit on the collapse of the society as well. I look forward to working with you all. Jennyfayfay (talk) 15:10, 19 February 2022 (UTC)