Talk:Mnemonic peg system

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This topic is a little thick on the external references. Shouldn't it be trimmed down a little? -- Mikeblas 04:35, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

It needs a couple simple examples

While the article gives a long peglist based on the major system, that is not a list for beginners. Until someone has studied and practiced with the major system, that list will not make much sense. This article needs a simple "beginner's" example based on rhymes.JeffStickney 22:40, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

extend the peg list

The advice that was given for extending the list beyond 100 was inapropriate. The 100 pegwords were derived from the major system, and would be extremely difficult to memorize without first learning the major system. With the major system, there is no limit of 100. trying to keep a mental image of a tie separated from the image of a red tie, separate from a smelly red tie etc would be ridiculously unnecessary, when you can just think of words like "toast" for 101, "nest" for 201, and "dead-set" for 1101. I severely edited the section but did not delete it. It needs some better examples. I put a sidebar comment in the hole I left where the examples belong JeffStickney 23:33, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

How about a Wikibook?

I think the assorted and overlapping memory techniques (peg system, major system, loci, etc) would make a good Wikibook. JeffStickney 13:53, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

My recent edits

Although I do think this is a very useful topic, most of the information (including the stuff I had written) was clearly out of place here as per WP:not#HOWTO I found the wikibook that had this information, and linked to it before removing the material from this article. The topic is still notable enough to deserve an article, but let's let wikibooks handle the bulk of the how to.I did leave the rhyming example because the article needs ONE example to explain what a peg list is. We now need more information on the history of this system, and the way people such as Harry Lorayne have used it.JeffStickney 23:21, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Proposed New Edits

I would like to propose several new edits to make this page more clear, useful, and relevant.

I would like to first edit the first paragraph. While it is accurate, it is somewhat wordy and cumbersome. I think that it can be rewritten to make it much more clear.

The paragraph comparing and relating the Peg System to the Method of Loci is also confusing. There is no citation for this part and while both are mnemonic devices they are distinctively different and should not imply that they can function in the same way. I also think that when the Major System is mentioned, there should be more of an explanation of what it is and how it relates to this system.

The last sentence in the introduction I would like to move to a new section regarding the application of this mnemonic device in daily life as well as memory competitions. This section could also reference famous memory champions that use this technique such as Ed Cooke and author Joshua Foer.

I would also like to add in both the introduction and the examples, something about the PAO (Person Action Object) technique and Ed Cooke's PAO method for 3 digit numbers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mmbradshaw12 (talk • contribs) 18:45, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

I agree with most of your proposed edits, with a couple of additional suggestions. The introduction is rather bulky, and the body of the article consists solely of examples; it might be better to move everything but the first paragraph down to a new section titled something like "method" or "explanation." The distinction between method of loci and pegword system absolutely needs to be made much clearer, I agree. Lastly, I'd suggest adding a line or two about the possible problems of using the pegword system--for example, we talked about how using the same pegs multiple times may lead to confusion as multiple images become associated with the same peg. Jennjiyoun (talk) 01:19, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

An easy edit that I think would be helpful would be to link this page to other pages about mnemonic devices such as the method of loci and the linkword method. It helps put it into context of other mnemonic devices and makes it easier to understand in the broader sense of memory. Nicolette12345 (talk) 06:56, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Citations

I think the introduction needs some citations. Therefore, I may need to rewrite some of the initial facts because I do not know where the original facts came from. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertrohner (talk • contribs) 03:34, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

New Rhyming Example

The rhyming example given in this article work but I think that a working example would be better. There should be a list of 10 words to memorize and then a step by step process with images showing how this mnemonic is actually used. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertrohner (talk • contribs) 03:37, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree with your suggestion here. I think if the example given were more instructional, it would give the audience the opportunity to work through the mnemonic themselves, which would lead to a better understanding of the concept. If you can effectively reorganize the section to have such an organization it would be much better. Jasonbrovich (talk) 18:12, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

what is meant by "dimensional"? Elizareader (talk) 02:34, 9 May 2016 (UTC)