Talk:Mississippi Aerial River Transit

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As of Dec. 21, 2006 the red structural legs of the Gondola are laying in ruin along the north east bank of the Industrial Canal in Orleans Parish. The legs are lying adjacent to each other in a slight norhwest/southeast direction. They are behind the Bunny Bread factory located on Downman rd. http://local.live.comdefault.aspx?v=2&cp=30.023841~-90.030639&style=o&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=2721482

Does anyone know of the current location of one or more of the Gondola cars ceased in the 90's?

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:44, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

first in the United States

Based on a reference in the Engineering News-Record this article claims:

After the fair, this served as both the first urban aerial gondola commuter system in the United States as well as one of the largest privately owned mass transit systems in the world.^[1]

However, the Roosevelt Island Tramway opened in 1976, about 8 years before the Mississippi Aerial River Transit. The Roosevelt Island Tramway was of the type known to wikipedia editors as an aerial tramway not of the gondola lift type that MART was. In terms of size (using either route miles or number of employee metrics) it might be noted that the Union Pacific Railroad, the Pennsylvania Railroad, the New York Central Railroad, and the New York, New Haven, and Hartford Railroad were each much larger than the MART was when it was operating (although none of those privately held railroad companies were operating as private companies in 1984). In 1984 the Greyhound Lines, the Peter Pan Bus Lines, and the Trailways Transportation System companies were each privately held and each was much larger than the MART operation. Hence I think the size claim should be removed. Since the distinction between an aerial tramway and a gondola lift is a subtle technical one that may escape the notice of many readers, perhaps the claim could be rewritten with an expanded footnote along the lines of the following: 69.119.27.73 (talk) 13:06, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

After the fair, this served as the second urban aerial lift and the first gondola lift commuter system in the United States.^[2]

This latter proposal has been inserted as the third sentence in the lead paragraph. 69.119.27.73 (talk) 01:59, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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^ The Roosevelt Island Tramway, which opened in 1976 in New York City, was an aerial tramway system not a gondola lift system as the MART was. See also "Aerial gondolas planned for New Orleans transit". Engineering News-Record. May 12, 1983. pp. 17, News. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

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[May12-1] Cite error: The named reference May12 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).

[May12_note-2] The Roosevelt Island Tramway, which opened in 1976 in New York City, was an aerial tramway system not a gondola lift system as the MART was. See also "Aerial gondolas planned for New Orleans transit". Engineering News-Record. May 12, 1983. pp. 17, News. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

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