Talk:Miramichi—Grand Lake

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Merger proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was that the proposal to merge was uncontroversial and did not elicit opposition.

I propose to merge Miramichi (electoral district) into Miramichi-Grand Lake. I think that the content in the Miramichi (electoral district) article can easily be explained in the context of Miramichi-Grand Lake, and the Miramichi-Grand Lake article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Miramichi (electoral district) will not cause any problems as far as article size is concerned.

A new page for an electoral district should only be created if the previous electoral districts have been radically altered, merged, or dismembered. Only 17% of the current Miramichi—Grand Lake wasn't a part of the previous Miramichi electoral district, and much of that 17% has, at one time or another in the past, been a part of the Miramichi electoral district in previous representation orders. A new page is therefore not warranted: note that the Miramichi electoral district changed in substance almost as much in the 2003 redistribution as it did in the 2013 redistribution (with 15.4% of its electors being "new" after the 2003 redistribution), and yet no separate Wikipedia article exists. Also note that, throughout its history, the Miramichi electoral district has incorporated a number of different rural areas bordering the main Northumberland County part of the district; the mere fact that one of these adjoining rural areas now finds its name in the name of the electoral district does not make it a different riding.

For precedents on this, see the layout of the articles for Toronto Centre (which also incorporates previous incarnations, Toronto Centre-Rosedale and Rosedale, into the representation history covered by the article), Dartmouth—Cole Harbour (also covering Dartmouth and Dartmouth—Halifax East), and the Fredericton electoral district (also covering York—Sunbury).

Omertop (talk) 02:09, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We don't really have a rule on this; there's always the worry of 'original research' is being used to determine successor/predecessor ridings. Personally, my rule is if the riding is 90% the same, then a move/merge is unambiguously warranted. While this is not the case for this riding, I will not oppose a merge, as Miramichi-Grand Lake is clearly the successor riding in my opinion.-- Earl Andrew - talk 12:09, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This article was nominated for merging with Miramichi_(electoral_district) on 19-Oct-2020. The result of the discussion (permanent link) was to merge.

Extraordinary readjustment of boundaries in 2005

This article is missing any discussion of the rare event that happened to this district in 2005. Please see my comment at Talk:Acadie—Bathurst#Extraordinary readjustment of boundaries in 2005. Mathew5000 (talk) 06:11, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]