Talk:Minnie Vautrin

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The reconstructed deposition (dramatical, but seems to be based on fact) of Minnie Vautrin here [1] suggests that the good lady committed suicide partly due to the guilt of having struck a deal with the Japanese to allow 100 girls to be taken to the Japanese camp, in return for a cessation of the nightly rape raids, girls who were never seen again. Is this based in fact?

References and Further reading

Removed the http://www.nankingthebook.com/ link for Kevin Kent's novel because that URL currently gives a 403 error. SimonB NZ 09:30, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Added link back, it works now

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I am wondering as to whether this source and this source are reliable and good to include. My National History project included these sources, but I do not know if they could help anything on this page or not. Let me know! Fescandon (talk) 01:51, 27 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccuracies for the end of her life

Hey I don't really *do* Wikipedia but I'm doing research on missionaries in China at the moment and am noticing minor inaccuracies in the summary of her life on this page. For one, Minnie did not kill herself in *her own* apartment--she did so in that of a colleague. I also do not believe the "ten lives" quote is accurately represented. She didn't keep her diary after April 1939 when she suffered her mental break, and although she left a suicide note I don't think it said that verbatim. I think it would be responsible to leave it paraphrased rather than in a block quote as it currently is. I can't do super specific citations but the "Last Days" section of Hua-Ling Hu's book "American Goddess at the Rape of Nanking" accurately portrays the end of her life, and there are plenty of primary sources (direct correspondences and telegrams, including Yocum's letter announcing her death) available in Yale's online archives at this link: https://divinity-adhoc.library.yale.edu/UnitedBoard/Ginling_College/Box%20145/RG011-145-2881.pdf . Most useful letters are around page 44 in the PDF. People who are well-versed in Wikipedia formatting and policy, please please make these fixes, we all owe it to her.

Chinese name

According to various sources, Vautrin was named Hua Chuan in Chinese. This may have been merely a Chinese homophone of "Vautrin." Regardless, it would be interesting to know which actual Chinese words were used to represent the sounds, but I could not find a source for this information. Ham Pastrami (talk) 02:45, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The more accurate pinyin version of this Chinese name should be Hua Qun，华群https://www.ourjiangsu.com/a/20210514/1620981202630.shtml 218.188.222.205 (talk) 00:13, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]