Talk:Ministries in Nineteen Eighty-Four

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Noting a merge from June, 2015

Back on 16 June of 2015 some content was merged from a separate article called Room 101. See this edit for more information. The edit history under the Room 101 redirect lists prior contributions that may have wound up in this article. The reason for the 2015 merge was that the plot section was too long. See a discussion in Archive 9. EdJohnston (talk) 14:04, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Addition to Cultural Impact/In Fiction (Ficdep? :P)

In the second season of Netflix's Ghost in the Shell: SAC_2045, there are some parallels used, including Room 101, Miniluv (a program/virus installed in nearly every human, with the image of the "file" blatantly saying it's taken from the book), and "Big Brother" (Takashi, a "post-human"), with the end result being a world where everyone is allowed a form of Doublethink whereby they can all live two versions of their lives simultaneously.

I can't find any reliable sources to include for this, so I'm not going to include it in the article yet, but some help would be appreciated. Mousenight (talk) 00:50, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 January 2023

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The result of the move request was: Moved. Per nom; "Ministries in..." makes better grammatical sense than "Ministries of..." considering "Ministries of" is generally used in the context of a person or (the Government of) a country. Unopposed RM.--Estar8806 (talk) 19:39, 25 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ministries of Nineteen Eighty-Four → Ministries in Nineteen Eighty-Four – For precision. If we formed a sentence from the title, we could have "Of Nineteen Eighty-Four, the Ministry of Truth is anything but truthful". This is clearly absurd. But that is what this title is based on. More appropriately, it would be "In Nineteen Eighty-Four, the Ministry of Truth is anything but truthful". The point is that when referring to fictional stuff, we use "in" like they're a place, not "of". Ministries of Nineteen Eighty-Four also sounds like we're making up a new ministry. Python Drink (talk) 20:44, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I'm not sure I follow your logic. I don't see a problem with either title. YorkshireExpat (talk) 21:25, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well then, @YorkshireExpat let's have it my way lmao. — Python Drink (talk) 21:28, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Would support a move to Ministries (Nineteen Eighty-Four), but I'm not sure that this is WP:BROKEN. 162 etc. (talk) 02:38, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Didn't know about WP:BROKEN, but I think that's where I was too. YorkshireExpat (talk) 11:52, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Nineteen Eighty-Four is the title of the book, and this article is about the fictional ministries in that book, like the Ministry of Truth. Oppose Ministries (Nineteen Eighty-Four). A descriptive title is more WP:natural in this case. Station1 (talk) 21:02, 19 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Room 102

This is, of course, a reference to Nineteen Eighty-four. But it's probably an indirect reference in that it references the TV show Room 101 hosted by Paul Merton, which I think is more notable. 178.155.245.114 (talk) 19:29, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I just noticed that there is already a mention of Room 101. I don't know how I missed that. Please disregard. 178.155.245.114 (talk) 19:31, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A somewhat sidewise additional point from this, is the Doctor Who storyline featuring a building filled with duplicate Rooms 101, and the Doctor's own room, numbered 11: a reference to the real Room 101. But, of course, the "real" Room 101 is itself a work of fiction.

Nuttyskin (talk) 14:53, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]