Talk:Mini scule

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 06:55, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that one of the smallest known species of frog is Mini scule? Source: [[1]]
  • ALT1:... that Mini scule is in the same genus as Mini mum and Mini ature? Source: [[2]]

• Comment: By far the best hook I have ever come up with.

Created by AryKun (talk). Self-nominated at 05:38, 20 September 2021 (UTC).

• The article is new enough, long enough and cited throughout. The hooks are interesting and have an inline ref. QPQ is not required as there are 2 previous nominations and Earwig is clear. This is good to go. I have a slight preference for ALT0. Desertarun (talk) 17:14, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

• Promoter's comment to @AryKun: this is definitely one of the funniest/cleverest hooks I've seen at DYK—i'm putting it on my favourites page.

ALT0 to T:DYK/P3

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Mini scule/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: FunkMonk (talk · contribs) 16:39, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

• Hi again, I'll have a look soon.
• Nothing on its lifestyle?

No, no published information.

• Could be good to mention the full names of the other members of the genus here so that the recurring joke is clearer.

Done.

• Any cladograms?

Made one, not very pretty though.

• The two pictures used are very similar, how about adding some of the other views here?[3] Perhaps you could extract images from different views and use the multiple images template.

Replaced with top and bottom views.

• Anatomical direction terms (lateral etc.) will probably be meaningless to most readers, always good to "translate" them to common language.

Done.

• Spell out full names and perhaps occupation of people mentioned.

Done.

• "collected in Sainte Luce Reserve in Anosy in Madagascar" When?

Added year.

• The taxobox has a synonym, but there is no explanation or elaboration of this in the article body, which there should be ,especially for such a short article.

Added.

• "received a large amount of publicity" You only cite two articles, though. And do any of these specifically state it "received a large amount of publicity"? Because that statement would itself need support. You could just snip "large amount" to avoid the issue.

Removed "large amount".

• "and degradation in the quality of the forest which it inhabits" What is this caused by?

The journal article doesn't say.

• No follow up research articles after its description?

Only one, the phylogenetic study that suggested that Mini and Cophyla be lumped.

• Was it distinguished on the basis of morphology alone or also DNA?

Both, but I don't see where this could be incorporated.

• "as well as a less distinct lateral border" What is that?

Reworded.

• "can be distinguished from them by the condition of its carpals" And what is this condition?

Reworded.

• "is a species of microhylid" This should be mentioned under taxonomy too then.

Fixed.

• Any map showing where it is found? Seems there is a free one in the Plos paper.

Added map.

• @FunkMonk: I've addressed all of your concerns, could you go over it again? AryKun (talk) 10:22, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
• "a 2021 phylogeny by Alain Dubois, Annemarie Ohler, and R. Alexander Pyron" Since you don't mention all co-authors for the main study, why here?

Changed.

• Very annoying that the later study went on to spoil the fun by breaking the puns, but since this is a later name, is it really a synonym, as listed? It may even become the accepted name? Any refutations of their findings? Otherwise I think it's significant enough to mention in the intro that there is an alternative combination of names.

Wikiproject Reptiles and Amphibians recommends using the Amphibians of the World taxonomy, which currently lists Cophyla scule as a junior synonym.

• Since there are two competing phylogenies, it would be more neutral to for example show two cladograms side by side, perhaps with more taxa outside the genus mini. Like for example in Elasmosaurus. If you have difficulties creating cladograms, you can request them at WP:Treereq.

Made a request at Treereq.

Alright, I should be ready to support once these are implemented. FunkMonk (talk) 11:07, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Added both cladograms.

• "known range of Mini scule" You should mention the shape and colour of its symbol, as other species are shown too.

Done. AryKun (talk) 13:11, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

• Not required of course, but could be nice to create Mini ature?

Made a bare minimum (no pun intended) stub Mini ature, I'll try to expand it when I have time. AryKun (talk) 13:26, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Nice, will promote now. FunkMonk (talk) 13:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

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In the android app I see this text "ncvnfhers5ye5syhetshesth" right after disambiguation I assume it to be a mistake? 2A00:A040:183:4B0E:7427:7614:F613:A8C7 (talk) 06:57, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Vandalism, now removed. AryKun (talk) 07:58, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Needs image showing scale

This article needs an image of the frog next to something like a coin or a cricket to show how small this frog is. The pictures in the article show no comparative reference, so it looks like a normal-size frog. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:04, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

The only images of the species available are the ones from the initial article describing it, which did not have any items alongside to show scale. AryKun (talk) 03:07, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Diet?

I am surprised to find no mention of the species's diet whatsoever. Surtsicna (talk) 19:40, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

The diet is unknown, so can't say anything about that. AryKun (talk) 03:05, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

You can say it is unknown. If so, surely the sources say at least that. The Smithsonian reference says that Mini frogs "might now be better equipped to hunt down tiny prey such as ants and termites", so there is some discussion to report. Surtsicna (talk) 19:31, 28 October 2022 (UTC)