Talk:Mineko Nomachi

A fact from Mineko Nomachi appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 11 September 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Japanese essayist Mineko Nomachi's 2006 book I'm Queer But I'm An Office Lady details her experience as a transgender woman in a pink-collar job?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Amkgp (talk) 15:48, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that Japanese essayist Mineko Nomachi's 2006 book I'm Queer But I'm An Office Lady details her experience as a transgender woman working as an office lady?~~ Source: 1

Reviewed: Thomas Clapham

Created by Morgan695 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:42, 28 August 2020 (UTC).[reply]

The article is new enough (created today) and is over 2600 characters, so it meets the length requirement easily. I see no POV issues, anything contentious like the onee thing and the Kitagawa thing are both cited. (My only quibble is that it might be better to make clear in the article that the Kitagawa allegations occurred between 1988-2000, so they were quite a long time prior to his death). As I can't read Japanese and machine translation of non-Roman scripts is a crapshoot at best, I'll take it on good faith that these citations are reliable - pretty clear that Morgan695's DYK and article creation record bears that out. Earwig doesn't pull any CV issues, but again, I'll take on good faith that the article doesn't use closely-paraphrased translations.
Hook is a good length, and I think it's suitably interesting without POV issues. The citation for the hook is in English and is a reliable academic source.
QPQ done, no image, all together I think we're good to roll here. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 08:41, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I came by to promote this, but the hook is rather repetitious. Yoninah (talk) 22:32, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: I think there's an interesting hook in I'm Queer But I'm An Office Lady, but alt hooks are below.. Morgan695 (talk) 23:03, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ~~... that Japanese essayist Mineko Nomachi led a campaign to protest the naming of a railway station in Tokyo?~~
ALT2 ~~... that Japanese essayist Mineko Nomachi criticized the Japanese press for their failure to acknowledge allegations of sexual abuse in their eulogies of a prominent talent manager?~~

@Morgan695: I also like the title in the hook. What about:
ALT3: ~~... that Mineko Nomachi, the pseudonymous author of I'm Queer But I'm An Office Lady, was legally recognized as a woman in her family registry in 2007?~~ Yoninah (talk) 13:24, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Not a fan of that one, to be honest. Feels a bit tabloid-y to present someone's transition in the context of a DYK hook. Morgan695 (talk) 16:57, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Morgan695: I understand. The only way I could see using the ALT0 is by removing some of the repetition. Is this an option:
ALT0a: ... that Japanese essayist Mineko Nomachi's 2006 book I'm Queer But I'm An Office Lady details her experience as a transgender woman in a pink-collar job? Yoninah (talk) 18:28, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think that works. Redirecting for either User:Premeditated Chaos or another editor to approve ALT0a. Morgan695 (talk) 18:34, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm partial to ALT0a, let's go with that. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:28, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great, thank you. User:Yoninah should be able to restore the tick and promote the nomination now. Morgan695 (talk) 23:02, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, since I wrote the hook, someone else has to approve it and another editor will have to promote it. Premeditated Chaos, could you give it the tick? Yoninah (talk) 23:21, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

by the power invested in me through the edit button, I hereby accord this hook the Green Tick of Legitimacy. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:10, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]