Talk:Minamoto clan

Cleanup Member List

There has to be a better way to list the members of this family / clan. -Kode 04:18, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm working on getting family trees scanned out of a public domain book. But my scanner isn't working right now. LordAmeth 11:22, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I've added the family tree, scanned from Edmond Papinot's "Historical and geographical dictionary of Japan", published originally in 1910 and thus public domain material. It's not the greatest, but I hope it prettier than what we had before. I've commented out what we had before rather than deleting it, so that if anyone wants to re-add it, or use it some other way, they still can easily. LordAmeth 12:35, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Imperial Generals

If a man was a general of the imperial army, does that make them a member of the imperial clan? MicronesianHelper2016 (talk) 14:29, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

   You sound like you might know a little more than I. On the other hand, you are more likely to know less, bcz your question immediately inspires in me questions you seem not to have considered, and I would consider it unreasonable to seek more information on why you consider it plausible, bcz most societies make extremely strong assumptions about compatibility of roles, and the moreso in non-nomadic societies, and still more yet those with bushido-style cultures. I don't bet money, but if I did, I think I'd be wisest if I tried to take yours, based on my presumption that you'd accept odds that I'd be justly confident were grossly disadvantageous to you. Instead, your free answer is "Keep y'r money in yer pocket, kid." I expect nobles were generals, but even the rank of field marshal would soil the dignity of a member of that clan. The imperial clan most likely learned military theory, and skills, but only to ensure themselves a good chance of identifying the most qualified of high officers on one hand, and personal body-guards on the other, without having to rely on the counsel of likely sycophant.
--JerzyA (talk) 02:52, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Introduction part

When their history began

"...who were excluded from the line of succession and demoted into the ranks of the nobility from 1192 to 1333"
This part looks incorrect, because the subsequent text says "The practice was most prevalent during the Heian period (794–1185 AD)".
What does the reference (Warrior Rule in Japan) exactly say? I guess the period of 1192-1333 is when the Kamakura shogunate existed.
--Nao Costas (talk) 14:35, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! You are right.

So, I have corrected the information according to a book written in Japanese. 田中まさこ (talk) 07:05, 19 March 2023 (UTC)