Talk:Milton Keynes urban area

Home needed for 2001 census urban sub-areas

The article North Milton Keynes is nominated for deletion and will not survive. A home needs to be found for it here, and for the other US-As that the ONS define without obvious rhyme or reason (and confused 'broad brush' third-party websites like citypopulation.de in the process). I'm saving the text here pending a solution that won't mess up this article,

North Milton Keynes was an Office for National Statistics designated urban sub-area for the 2001 national census. This terminology is not used for the 2011 census.

The Central Milton Keynes urban sub-area and the North Milton Keynes urban sub-area together approximated to that part of the former Newport Pagnell Rural District that is west of the River Ouzel. The sub-area consists of the modern part of Bradwell, Rooksley, half of Bradwell Common, Linford Wood, half of Downs Barn, Downhead Park, Willen and Tongwell.

The ONS's basis for defining "North Milton Keynes", and its boundary with the Central Milton Keynes urban sub-area, was unclear since it did not respect natural boundaries. It may have related to phases of building developments.

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Suggestions welcome, bearing in mind that the solution will need to embrace the other strange and wonderful subareas like Browns Wood, CMK and 'Wolverton Stony Stratford' that were much larger than the districts that they were named after. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 16:14, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

References

Discussion that may affect this article

There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk: WikiProject UK geography#Debate on merging "urban area" ("built-up area") articles into the primary settlement area, which may affect this article. Opinions welcome. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 12:52, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Population

There's a discrepancy between the 2021 population figure of 256,385 here and that stated in the Milton Keynes article for the urban area, which shows 264,329. Pinging @User:JMF who looking at the article history entered the figure here and I know takes great care. It seems rather strange, especially as both of the population figures have the same cited reference. Looking at all the population figures set out in the source I don't see one anywhere in the table for 256,385. Rupples (talk) 19:26, 7 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment but actually I'm terrible on detail .

Citypopulation.de says 264,349 now (as it did when I revised the main MK article to include it). So, assuming that the 256,385 figure wasn't vandalism, I can only assume that Citypopulation revised their figures at some stage. (How they arrived at them in the first place I don't know because the ONS haven't released the official agglomeration figure yet.) The City of Milton Keynes UA figure is 287,060 (ONS source) so it is not a confusion of names.

I'll revise this (MKUA) figure to 264,349 since that is what the cited source says now. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 00:12, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I think the most likely explanation is the figures were revised. After noting the query, I found the 256,385 figure is described as "Provisional data" under the demographics section. I'll change that to 264,349 as well. Rupples (talk) 00:37, 8 February 2024 (UTC)