Talk:List of military aid to Ukraine during the Russo-Ukrainian War
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[edit]Hungary: 35 thousand tonnes of diesel fuel / month (MOL - UkrTransNafta agreement) Sources: https://hungarytoday.hu/ukrainian-armor-moves-thanks-to-hungarian-fuel-exports/ https://www.szabadeuropa.hu/a/ukrajna-dizel-mol/32513591.html Gabor vasarus (talk) 09:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
Get rid of the notes section since Kosovo has no relevance in this page. Filipisepic (talk) 22:03, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
Article needs to be repaired
[edit]We need volunteers to repair the damage caused by Uwdwadafsainainawinfi after this editor's copyright violations and removing properly sourced contents. At the same time, we need to preserve new military aid announcements from the past few weeks. Anyone interested? OhanaUnitedTalk page 13:13, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
- Finished cleaning up Spain's copyright violation contents added by Uwdwadafsainainawinfi (who is now permanently blocked). I need assistance for other countries as Spain cleanup alone took me more than 30 mins (and Spain didn't donate a lot). If you cleaned up a country, please note it here to avoid duplication of effort. OhanaUnitedTalk page 03:46, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
- Australia was cleaned up by Melbguy05. OhanaUnitedTalk page 04:05, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
Country sections that need repair:
AustraliaCanada- Denmark (partially repaired)
Finland- Germany
- Italy
JapanLithuaniaLuxembourgMontenegroNetherlands- Norway (partially repaired)
- Poland (partially repaired)
SlovakiaSpainSweden
OhanaUnitedTalk page 00:42, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
- I've updated list today based on repair status. OhanaUnitedTalk page 04:01, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
Request to add Argentina
[edit]Argentina will donate two helicopters under the new administration of Javier Milei.
Source in Spanish: (here) 190.246.97.81 (talk) 12:11, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
Argentina donated two helicopters Mi-171E helicopters to Ukraine
[edit]https://www.scramble.nl/military-news/argentina-donates-two-mi-171e-to-ukraine Wikipediow (talk) 12:37, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
- Added. Thanks. OhanaUnitedTalk page 19:14, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
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The companies section is a little misleading. First of all, Spacex did not support Ukraine out of goodwill, but received federal funds from the United States. Spacex under Elon Musk also sabotaged multiple Ukrainian missions, which also resulted in personnel loss. 103.210.202.135 (talk) 15:24, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 15:28, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
EU Aid Typo
[edit]Last line in EU Aid is suppoesed to read 225 million€ not 225€ ShotKotaner (talk) 18:16, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Ecuador
[edit]Ecuador will donate 9K33 Osa.
Source in Spanish: (here) Artemis Dread (talk) 19:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
Typo UK monetary aid
[edit]The figure provided for the amount of monetary aid donated by the UK is missing a qualifier (e.g. billion). Merxa (talk) 19:06, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
They did crowd funding in the UK to buy 101 tracked armored British vehicles, and I don't think I see it listed. It also doesn't list exactly how much of which, just that they're all from the CVR(T) family, and the total number. And the last update I can find says that 24 were delivered last year, but not anything more recent. Source. Harizotoh9 (talk) 21:25, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
Demining Equipment from Ireland
[edit]Please add the following section to Ireland
Engineering vehicles
- 2 DOK-ING MV-4 remote controlled mine clearance vehicles [February 2024].
See the following media articles for references
https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0226/1434407-taoiseach-paris/
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/irish-defence-forces-providing-vital-equipment-and-training-to-help-ukrainian-troops-clear-mines/a656377779.html Finestat (talk) 18:27, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
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The French ministry of the armed forces have published an official list (link to the list : https://www.defense.gouv.fr/en/news/french-military-equipment-delivered-ukraine ) of military equipment sent to Ukraine between the 24th February 2022 and the 31th December 2023 so we now have a better idea of the military equipment sent by France. I suggest a number of change to take into account these information.
- Change "2 227mm LRU MLRS" to "4 227mm LRU MLRS"
- Not done I am not seeing this in the source. It says "Unitary Rocket Launcher: 4" but that's too vague to pertain clearly to this specific stat. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Change "~20 155mm TRF1s" to "6 155mm TRF1s"
- Change "Unknown number of MO-120 RT heavy mortars." to "10 MO-120 RT heavy mortars."
- Change "30 to 40 AMX-10 RCR" to "38 AMX-10 RC"
- Change "~60 VABs" to "250 VABs"
- Change "Renault TRM 10000 Trucks" to "10 Renault TRM 10000 ACH Fuel Trucks"
- Change "Renault GBC 180 all-terrain 6X6 cargo trucks" to "6 Renault GBC 180 all-terrain 6X6 cargo trucks"
- Change "Peugeot P4 off-road vehicles" to "120 Peugeot P4 off-road vehicles"
- Not done Given the extra detail that they are "crowfunded by Ukrainian public" saying all 120 were would be synthesis. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Change "Mistral systems" to "6 Mistral systems"
- Change "MILAN systems" to "3 MILAN systems"
- Change "HPD2A2s" to "3600 HPD2A2s"
- Not done Source says "Anti-Tank Mine : 3,600", not that all of them are HPD2A2s. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Change "Unknown number of Ground Master 200 radars" to "1 Ground Master 200 radar"
- Not done I'm not seeing this in the source - unless a GM200 is the same as a CM200 which is not at all clear to me as someone unfamiliar with military terms. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Change "150 reconnaissance drones purchased from the French company Delair" to "160 reconnaissance drones purchased from the French company Delair"
- Not done The source says 160 reconnaissance drones of some sort, nothing about them being ordered from Delair. This would be WP:SYNTH * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Add in the "Small arms" category : "•560 12.7mm machine gun" , "•1,000 Famas Aussault Rifle", "•20 sniper rifle"
- Change "Ammunition of various calibers (12.7mm ammunition, 155mm artillery rounds, etc.)." to "1.1 million ammunition of various calibers (9mm, 5.56 ammunition, etc.)."
- Add in the "Ammunition category" : "•1.74 million 12.7mm ammunition", "•30000 155mm artillery round", "9000 105mm round for AMX10 RC" (the AMX10 RC use specific ammunition)
- Change "OF 37 HE hand grenades" to "10500 OF 37 HE hand grenades"
- Not done The source says nothing about the specific brand of grenade, just 10500 grenades generally. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
- Change "Helmets" to "6200 Helmets"
- Change "Bulletproof vests" to "6500 Bulletproof vests"
- Change "Army medical kits" to "3700 Army medical kits"
- Change "Electro-optical/Infra-red systems (including night detection binoculars ordered from Thales and Safran" to "Electro-optical/Infra-red systems (including 445 night detection binoculars ordered from Thales and Safran"
- Not done The source says 445 night vision binoculars of some sort, nothing about them being ordered from Thales and Safran. This would be WP:SYNTH * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Analamed (talk) 10:52, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
- I suggest separating your suggestions by making each one on a different line or some format other than just a ton of suggestions in one giant paragraph. Shadow311 (talk) 13:53, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
- Partly done per inline comments. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:52, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 March 2024 - Belgium
[edit]The Belgian government has given the green light on Friday for 412 million euros in additional aid for Ukraine. This was announced by Minister of Defense Ludivine Dedonder:
- Transfer of three minesweepers to Ukraine in collaboration with the Netherlands. Belgium to organize basic training for personnel. Netherlands to provide on-the-job training for crews .Maintenance of the ship Narcis before transfer to ensure seaworthiness and usability for training and operations (6 million euros from the Ukraine Fund)
- Purchase of armored ambulances in Benelux cooperation, modernized and transferred to Ukraine
- Joint purchase of reconnaissance drones
- Contribution of 32.9 million euros from the Ukraine Fund
- Delivery of nearly 300 Lynx vehicles Infantry mobility vehicles
- Delivery of artillery ammunition: Partly from Defense stocks, Partly through an international group purchase from various companies
- 373.1 million euros allocated from the Ukraine Fund
Link (Dutch):https://www.hln.be/buitenland/live-oekraine-16-doden-door-russische-raketaanval-op-odesa-extra-belgische-steun-voor-kiev-mijnenjager-gepantserde-ambulances-en-munitie~abf3138b/ Waffely (talk) 18:26, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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Kosovo has approved to send a second military aid package to Ukraine consisting of mortar rounds. The first military aid package includes military trucks, and armored vehicles. Jimmybowles1 (talk) 12:51, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Source Twitter EjupMaqedonci Jimmybowles1 (talk) 12:52, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 03:01, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
France: 78 Caesar Howitzers
[edit]France announced additional Caesar howitzers will be sent, but from the wording I'm not sure if it means an additional 78 + what has already been delivered, or if they aim for 78 total. APNews. Harizotoh9 (talk) 08:17, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Aid provided
[edit]Under "aid provided" I see this: Philip Morris International; Donated 500,000 packs of cigarettes to the Ukrainian military; 1 March 2022
I mean, seriously, since when is this aid? I would rather call it an attempt, an abuse, to get more people hooked on their product!
Also it would be nice if we could see money-wise which part of all the "aid" was truly given, which part came through lend-lease, and which part also gave an economic impulse to the economy or business of the so-called "beneficiary".
77.60.121.89 (talk) 10:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- A note or column demarking the kinds of donations you mentioned would be useful I think. 70.107.74.2 (talk) 19:36, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
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Azerbaijan does not sends military aid to Ukraine - https://tass.com/world/1716465. It should be removed from the list of countries which send aid. 118.232.26.49 (talk) 13:19, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- TASS is not considered a reliable source per WP:RSP.
- I was able to find an article by Trend News Agency parroting claims by Azerbaijan's Media Development Agency, but I'm unsure if a single article by a pro-government source overrides the five relatively independent ones currently used, one of which provides (supposed) leaked government documents to support its claims.
- That could be just me, though. I'll let another editor make the call. ZionniThePeruser (talk) 21:51, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Not done It doesn't in my opinion either. * Pppery * it has begun... 23:37, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
can someone find a picture of the billboard outside mike johnsons church
[edit]“For such a time as this,” it read, quoting a Bible verse alongside an image of a damaged Baptist church in Berdyansk, Ukraine. It addressed Johnson by name.
i feel like this is an important image to add to this article NotQualified (talk) 10:22, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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France to provide Mirage 2000 fighter jets to Ukraine
https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/france-provide-mirage-2000-warplanes-to-ukraine-macron-says-2024-06-06/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2024/06/06/ukraine-will-get-ex-french-mirage-2000-5-fighters/ https://www.politico.eu/article/france-fighter-jets-military-aviation-ukraine-emmanuel-macron-kyiv-direct-support-russia-war/ PAWPERSO (talk) 23:30, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lightoil (talk) 22:25, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- The content is already added to the France's section of the list. OhanaUnitedTalk page 20:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
Slovenia
[edit]Can somebody please add link for BOV
It is under: Infantry mobility vehicles: Pipi Skoda (talk) 09:23, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
Update to Australia
[edit]There was a new aid package announced in April of 2024 but the section says it hasn’t been updated since December 2023 - New package below:
https://www.minister.defence.gov.au/media-releases/2024-04-27/australia-continues-stand-ukraine Maxttck (talk) 10:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
can individual people be added to other parties?
[edit]prominent celebrities, e.g. jake broe, have organised massive amounts in donations NotQualified (talk) 17:14, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
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Section on Donor countries, add the following for Portugal Training Portuguese National Guard advisors were in Ukraine from January to July 2024 training and capacity building Ukranian National Guard and Police for stabilisation of frontline conflict areas [1], namely for security and protection of movements, of infrastructure and of lines of communication, special tactical operations training, capacity building for stress management and mitigation of post-traumatic disorders for local populations, human rights, and restoration of Rule of Law. The advisory mission was led by the Portuguese National Guard (GNR), composed of 4 specialist gendarmerie military advisors from Portugal, 2 from Spain, 2 from France, and 2 from Lithuania, integrated under the European Union's multinational gendarmerie force for conflict zones, EUROGENDFOR [2][3].
[1] Report by GNR Major in charge of the mission: https://www.euam-ukraine.eu/news/training-for-stability-insights-from-helder-garcao-on-stability-policing-in-ukraine/ [2] News article by TSF: https://www.tsf.pt/5544389558/gnr-lidera-formacao-de-162-membros-das-forcas-de-seguranca-da-ucrania/ [3] Interview on TV news TVI: https://tviplayer.iol.pt/programa/novo-dia/619391f80cf2c7ea0f08f951/video/6694c6700cf2dff02b874c4b Bikethepath (talk) 17:00, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
Typo US Monetary Aid
[edit]Delivery date for the JDAM-ER guided bombs reads "Marcvh 2023 onwards" instead of March. 70.107.74.2 (talk) 19:24, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
Australia Tanks + General Update
[edit]Australia are set to provide Ukraine with Abrams tanks + the Australia section needs a general update.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-10-16/ukraine-to-receive-aging-australian-abrams-tanks/104480368 5.151.206.18 (talk) 12:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Polish aid article reliable?
[edit]Yesterday, the official site of the President of Poland posted an article detailing the Polish aid given to Ukraine (https://www.prezydent.pl/aktualnosci/wydarzenia/polska-pomoc-dla-ukrainy,93620). The question about its reliability is because besides the Polish aid, several countries also appear. In particular there is Romania mentioned to have delivered 28 tanks (of which 23 used for spare parts). This is in particular since there was only one mention that Romania could've delivered its T-72s back in 2022 but like most other Romanian aid there was no official confirmation. So could this Polish source be considered as a reliable confirmation? Alin2808 (talk) 16:28, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Alin2808 Presidential press release is reliable. Is it accurate, that's another question. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:42, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus It's likely reliable and accurate for Poland. But could it be considered reliable for the other countries? I mean, for Romania it seems an awful lot like they just took information from this Wikipedia article without any question or research. Alin2808 (talk) 21:24, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Alin2808 Indeed, I agree. If we consider this a REDFLAG, then we should try to get a better source. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:23, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Piotrus It's likely reliable and accurate for Poland. But could it be considered reliable for the other countries? I mean, for Romania it seems an awful lot like they just took information from this Wikipedia article without any question or research. Alin2808 (talk) 21:24, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
The counterpart for aid to Russia might be needed, right now it is just a redirect. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:23, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Iranian-smuggled weapons
[edit]That subsection is unclear: "The following list attempts to provide an overview of Iranian-made or Iranian-smuggled weapons in use by the Ukrainian armed forces. They are believed to be intercepted armaments originally intended for Yemen." Who smuggled them? And if a weapon is just Iranian-made, should it be listed here at all? Ditto for smuggled, smuggling is not aid. Source used is [1]. This might belong on the list of Ukrainian army equipment, but not here (aid...).
Additionally, it is confusing that the list of two (types of?) Iranian mortars is followed by Small arms that don't appear to be Iranian, then artillery discussing US aid. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:40, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
United States military assistance fact sheet dated Oct 2024 listing aid provided to Ukraine
[edit]On 21 October 2024, the United States Department of State issued a press release / fact sheet detailing the U.S. assistance (financial and equipment) provided to Ukraine.[1] Melbguy05 (talk) 07:58, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ "U.S. Security Cooperation with Ukraine". U.S. Department of State (Press release). 21 October 2024. Retrieved 13 November 2024.
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