Talk:Midland line, Perth

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The article reads like transport info, the accident issue seems entirely out of place, surely there is somewhere else for this sort of commentary? User:SatuSuro 14:32, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Dates Year day and month, are needed, also it definately isnt the first fatal accident on this line, possible since westrail metro passenger service became part of transperth. I know of at least one at James st crossing in Guildford in the late 1980's. Also one at the Collier road crossing before that. I agree this isnt the place for it, I doubt if any of these accidents really warrant an article say someting like Western Australian Train Accidents, maybe Hines Hill in 1996 would Gnangarra 04:59, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

The Accident

I put information on the accident here because it is about the only suitable place for it. If anyone wants to start some dedicated articles, they can feel free to. This is where I felt it belonged best at this time. I never thought that one piece of text would suddenly generate this sort of thing, but hey, it did--M Johnson (talk • contribs) 06:13, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

The Midland Junction Railway Station

In earlier decades, they never called them train stations :) The Midland Junction railway station history does not appear relevent in this art - as this article is about the line and its current services, so am removing text specifically relating to the ugh Midland train station - and if the fierce young editors for that article get edgy, it will be put in another art again and linked to the list about closed railway stations (which it is technically what it is. :) User:SatuSuro 07:11, 29 July 2006 (UTC) On second thoughts, and to avoid unnecesary argument a new article which will be linked to closed railway stations... :) User:SatuSuro 07:15, 29 July 2006 (UTC) It is now started at the incorrect title (need to change later) Midland Junction railway station (Western Australia) User:SatuSuro 07:41, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

late 1980's

Line was upgraded for electrification, most stations were modified to suit the new trians, Bassendean lost the under pass connection to the platform. Ashfield, Success, Meltham(meltham also lost, West Midland(Woodbridge) were extended in length. Maylands was reconfigured to suit vision impared commuters. Gnangarra 12:31, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

station history

A potential source for station histories http://www.righttrack.wa.gov.au/Portals/3/media/History_Midland.pdf , Gnangarra 03:52, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

and these http://www.righttrack.wa.gov.au/TeacherParent/HISTORY/tabid/91/Default.aspx Gnangarra 03:55, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Primary topic?

@Dicklyon: Is this line the primary topic for the term "Midland railway line"? I assumed that the article would be about a Midland Railway line, probably its original Sheffield to Bristol route. That's not enough to make the UK line a primary topic, but it may be enough to start a discussion about whether the title should lead to a new or existing dab, with this article having a more specific title. Certes (talk) 23:44, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand the question. This Midland railway line in Western Australia is not related to Midland Railway in the UK. And Midland Line is disambiguated, as seems appropriate. Dicklyon (talk) 04:30, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

It's simply that many readers, overlooking the minutiae of capitalisation, might expect to read about the line of the Midland Railway or of any of Midland Railway (disambiguation). It could also mean the Midland railway line, Western Australia (whose confusing title could equally refer to this article). Certes (talk) 13:54, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

OK

Midland_Railway_of_Western_Australia (see below)

Midland_railway_line,_Western_Australia

Midland_railway_line

exist - and really, there is probably inadequate distinction between the top set - there were two - Midland_Railway_of_Western_Australia - perhaps the two iterations need to be separated as they were very different operations - - there four very different subjects with three names. JarrahTree 14:12, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, a bit of a mess. What's your proposal on how best to straighten it out? Dicklyon (talk) 05:11, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your acknowledgement - I was trying very hard to avoid getting involved in the metropolitan line naming dispute, for reasons I wont go into here.

What the midland railway is: - both operators called themselves exactly the same name:

The first was Midland Railway Company 1886-1967 (some items have 1894...) which operated line between Midland and Walkaway

The second was Midland Railway Company 2002-2008 - which used the exact same name but was the operator of the Spirit of the West Restaurant train

So the problem is the actual Midland Raiway line that still exists - it has had 2 operators - first the Midland Railway Company and then it was forcibly absorbed by the WAGR in 1967 - and some items claim 1964 not 1967 closure Then there are items in trove [ and encore [1] - that utilise the term Midland Railway canbe attached to a range of unrelated subjects/places/thingd - which can allude to midland railway workshops - the government operation south of the former midland junction railway site Midland railway can be the suburban railway line, or the midland to walkaway country line - (midland junction was dropped as part of names of things

I think there is room for a rather extended section of an article that distinguishes the range of all the different meanings, or a version of disambiguation possibly...

either the article about midland itself, with a careful nuanced description of the range of names/places

disambiguation with detail included

JarrahTree 09:13, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

My first question would be: does "Midland railway line" have a primary topic (globally, rather than specifically in Australia)? If so then there's no problem. If not then we should either create a disambiguation page or redirect the title to an existing dab such as Midland Railway (disambiguation) or Midland Line, and find a qualified title such as Midland railway line, Perth for this article. I would also question whether Midland railway line, Western Australia is the best title for line near Geraldton when Western Australia also contains this better known Midland railway line. Certes (talk) 15:04, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

OK, I understand your original question better now. I'd say no, no primary topic. A quick book search shows about as many references to UK and New Zealand lines as these WA lines. Dicklyon (talk) 17:57, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Joondalup railway line which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 21:17, 12 December 2021 (UTC)