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Helpfulness of defragmentation on SSDs, etc..

"However, defragmentation is not helpful on storage devices such as solid state drives, USB drives or SD cards that use flash memory to increase speeds, as these drives do not use a head." - the article

However, there is an analogous head, for whatever that is, that reads/writes to SSD, or things such as RAMdisk. I presume defragmentation somewhat helpful but perhaps not that SIGNIFICANT of an influence for most users of whom would bother to engage in defragmentation. I don't think I'd bother to defrag a Live-RAM setup if but to just do it for scientific purposes to see what negligible results come out of it: I presume there would be some optimization but not much to care about (if but for research and publication purposes). 4chan had a RAMdisk setup for its board: Maybe after the thing had run for 6 months (with a presumed daily average read/write activity throughout that time) continuously, maybe, then defragging the RAMdisk would have made some significantly noticeable effects on read/write access speed of the RAM... but that's speculation. I don't think 4chan is doing RAMdisk like it did back in 2011. - Dennis Francis Blewett III

Moving all the index or directory information to one spot.

Is there an documentation for this statement? (1) Doesn't happen on NTFS does it? -- Aren't all the directories in the system area anyway? (2) Didn't happen on Windows 95/98 did it? - Had to run Norton Speed Disk to do that? Note that MS disk caching did not cache folders/directories until the 32 bit disk access stuff appeared (although there was a seperate directory caching utility, it was not normally run under Windows 3.1). Unless you optimised the directory locations, this made path searches very slow, which made starting executables slow on 'large' hard disks. Unoptimised directory location became less of an issue because of GUI file start instead of path search, but also addressed by NTFS, which puts directories into a seperate area?218.214.18.240 21:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

At least with NTFS on Windows, all the directories are not necessarily kept in a 'system area', especially once disk space usage exceeds 87.5%.^[1]

Even if those data structure files / regions themselves aren't fragmented, the data structures inside the file can become fragmented. (Think of 'compacting' an e-mail database file in programs such as Microsoft Outlook.)

- Jim Grisham (talk) 23:58, 22 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "How NTFS reserves space for its Master File Table (MFT)". learn.microsoft.com. Microsoft. Retrieved 22 October 2022.

Windows defragger basically the same as Diskeeper?

I understand that in the past Windows Dosk Defragmenter was licensed from Diskeeper and was essentially the same product. Is that true in the Vista version?

I absolutely hate the new Vista defragger. There is no longer any graphics to suggest how the process is going. It takes forever to run because apparently it was designed that way, with no provisions for the user to speed things up. Very disappointing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.154.253.187 (talk • contribs) 12:38, 9 August 2007

Although you are entitled to an opinion this is not really the place to discuss it. I would recommend to search the Microsoft Technet pages to obtain more information. Microsoft implemented defragmentation and optimization software in the NTFS5 drivers but left it to third parties to use these in there software. See for instance Jkdefrag for one of these.Theking2 (talk) 10:49, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of BetacomandBot contributions

I've removed the automatically generated BetacommandBot contributions to this talk page to improve readability Theking2 (talk) 10:42, 9 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No longer called "Disk Defragmenter"

It is now (since Windows 8?) called "Optimize Drives" instead. See the screenshot on this article. 31.49.179.71 (talk) 04:10, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Windows 98 Defrag methods

In Windows 98, possibly ME, there is a setting to 'Rearrange program files so my programs start faster'. There should be an explanation on how the files are sorted differently when this is enabled. Activating this enables Disk Defragmenter to arrange the most frequently used programs and the files they sequentially call upon launch to the beginning of the partition. The monitoring of file usage is done by taskmon.exe and the technology is called Intel Application Launch Accelerator. This is similar to Windows Prefetch used in later versions of Windows. https://books.google.com/books?id=7eoCec_3FyAC&pg=PA322&lpg=PA322&dq=defrag+rearrange+program+files+so+my+programs+start+faster&source=bl&ots=zz3qadHiYn&sig=ACfU3U1DPFd741E5obrYz2IBjWKNDj6IYA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjcnJ2K4IrjAhVCCTQIHWKsCq0Q6AEwD3oECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=defrag%20rearrange%20program%20files%20so%20my%20programs%20start%20faster&f=false— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.193.254.87 (talk) 22:30, 27 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[ntfs-reserves-space-for-mft-1] "How NTFS reserves space for its Master File Table (MFT)". learn.microsoft.com. Microsoft. Retrieved 22 October 2022.

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