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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Micronations: The Lonely Planet Guide to Home-Made Nations features the Gay and Lesbian Kingdom of the Coral Sea Islands, the Kingdom of Lovely, and the Grand Duchy of Westarctica?

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... that Micronations: The Lonely Planet Guide to Home-Made Nations features the Gay and Lesbian Kingdom of the Coral Sea Islands, the Empire of the United States and the Grand Duchy of Westarctica? Source: the book itself
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Karen Hanghøj
- Comment: Thanks to Snowmanonahoe for the hook idea!

5x expanded by LunaEatsTuna (talk). Self-nominated at 04:23, 1 June 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Micronations: The Lonely Planet Guide to Home-Made Nations; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

@LunaEatsTuna: some issues: (1) Since BLDGBLOG is a blog, could you explicitly attribute that the information for that paragraph is from Sellars being interviewed by BLDGBLOG, instead of writing it in Wiki-voice; (2) I don't really like that the hook mentions "Empire of the United States" which I can't find mentioned as part of the book anywhere on the Internet, which indicates that it is not very interesting, could you replace that with another one that at least appears in a Google Search? starship .paint (exalt) 14:42, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review! I think the first issue should be addressed. As for an alt hook, how about the Kingdom of Lovely or the Republic of Kugelmugel? They appear to be much more noteworthy and their names remain fairly intriguing.

ALT1: ... that Micronations: The Lonely Planet Guide to Home-Made Nations features the Gay and Lesbian Kingdom of the Coral Sea Islands, the Kingdom of Lovely and the Grand Duchy of Westarctica?
ALT2: ... that Micronations: The Lonely Planet Guide to Home-Made Nations features the Gay and Lesbian Kingdom of the Coral Sea Islands, the Republic of Kugelmugel and the Grand Duchy of Westarctica? ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 18:41, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 approved, LunaEatsTuna - new enough, long enough; then according to all the online sources that I could check - adequately sourced , neutral, free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing; hook is AGF cited to the book itself, and is definitely interesting. starship .paint (exalt) 12:55, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Steelkamp (talk · contribs) 05:46, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good article criteria

Well written

Optional: If you want, the first letter of quotes can be decapitalised as per MOS:QUOTE.
Peter Needham, writing for The Australian, writes that. Could find a way to reword this so that "writing" and "writes" aren't both in the sentence.

Verifiable with no original research

I conducted spot checks of secondary sources 3, 4, 5 and 8.

Is it 156 of 160 pages? Could it be that the index pages are being counted or not?

Broad in its coverage

As some of the micronations listed don't have articles, could you add the (real) country that each micronation is in. For example, Principality of Sealand, United Kingdom. Freetown Christiania, Denmark.
You could add a short, one sentence definition of micronations to "Background and publication".

Neutral

Stable

Illustrated, if possible

Alt text could be added for the image. Otherwise screen readers just read out the file name.

General

That's it. A short but pretty good article already. Steelkamp (talk) 06:23, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Steelkamp: Thanks for the feedback! I believe all of your concerns have been addressed; I particularly liked your suggestion regarding adding the countries within which the micronations are located. Additionally, the book is indeed 160 pages; turns out only the first 156 are numbered. ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 22:44, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing, does Cascadia refer to the Cascadia movement? That page could be linked. Steelkamp (talk) 04:25, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It refers to the Republic of Cascadia, which seems related to the movement, but the micronation itself is not mentioned on said article. ツ LunaEatsTuna (💬)— 05:35, 22 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]