Talk:Michele Dauber

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Twitter Comments and Reaction

Recently Dr. Dauber posted some comments about women in law and the Johnny Depp / Amber Heard lawsuit. I suspect activists have been warring on the talk page about it, with comments and erasures. Instead of the usual edit warring, I'd like to see if editors will permit any mention of this topic in the article.

Both Newsweek [1] and Fox News [2] have covered this. Dauber's comments [3] are readily verifiable and both Newsweek and Fox are reliable sources so BLP violations are not assumed.

So, before I add elements of Dr. Dauber's commentary on women in law who represent unpopular defendants, I'd like input to see if this is even possible in the the current wikipedia culture. Mattnad (talk) 12:02, 12 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I believe the Twitter comments and particularly Dauber's comments apparently threatening a Stanford student she would use her position in Silicon Valley politics to damage his career if her angered her, really ought to be in her bio.

I believe her previous controversial Tweets should be included as well — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:1CD0:1710:3156:C541:BB19:3B53 (talk) 00:42, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cancer diagnosis

Why keep removing the part about her having cancer? She has posted about it multiple times on her public Twitter (which it is reasonable to assume she is the only person who has access to). I know that Twitter isn't always considered a reliable source but I feel like someone reporting on their personal twitter that they have cancer is more than enough confirmation. I also know that this page is monitored by people close to her who remove anything that she wouldn't want on here but she has tweeted about her cancer multiple times so clearly she wants that out there. 98.176.148.115 (talk) 07:49, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

True. She was even virtue signaling on July 15, 2020 on Twitter showing herself in a spacesuit (practically) holding her grandbaby and lecturing people about wearing a mask and having cancer. 76.202.192.102 (talk) 02:44, 23 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Talk Section has had discussions of many verifiable issues removed by someone

I think it is not very controversial that Dauber ran the campaign to recall the judge in the Brock Turner trial

Soon after the sentence, Professor Dauber gave an interview with Amy Goodman of Democracy Now, in which she said Chanel Miller was "gravely injured" when the EMT's arrived on the scene "Gravely injured" is a term of art in medicine meaning your injuries have a good chance of killing you. If I hit you in the head with a club, knocking you out, and knocking some teeth out, causing a concussion, and then break both your legs - you are not "gravely injured" because your life was never in danger - I think this should be in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:1CD0:1710:3156:C541:BB19:3B53 (talk) 00:49, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Won't happen. The only people who edit this page, Chanel Miller's page or the People v. Turner page are people close to Dauber and Miller. They have been working overtime to control the narrative for years now. 98.176.148.115 (talk) 10:11, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There should be a mention that a 2022 study found that the recall of Persky subsequently led California judges to give more punitive sentencing. This is a terrible and significant consequence and is material to this biography. And I DON'T care about the family connections that may or may not be editing this page! I am VERY upset to learn this! In fact, how dare you treat this as your personal property if you're reading this. Wikipedia is a community resource, so if what the above poster is saying is true, a big Georgia ta hell with y'all to ya! And if it ain't, then shame on them and I'll leave ya be. Source: https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/718357 Lothar76 (talk) 22:32, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t mind if you mention the harsher sentences given since the Persky recall so long as you provide a reliable source. Also, it kinda sounds like you do care about the family connections editing this page. 12.228.217.214 (talk) 23:07, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Additional information for her biography:

In June 2022, in the wake of the Johnny Depp vs Amber Heard trial, Dauber came under criticism for comments made on Twitter in which she referred to Camille Vasquez, at that time part of Depp's legal team, as "skirt, desperate to prove that they are real lawyers" and "pick me girl."¹³

Dauber was criticized for these comments in some newspapers as well as on social media, with Daniel Shensmith, a British barrister with his own YouTube channel BlackBeltBarrister, that explores legal issues and negotiations, telling the Daily Mail that comments of this nature were "defamatory" and "shocking," especially for an award-winning Stanford professor.

A petition calling on Stanford to investigate Dauber's behavior and comments, as well as possible bias against men at the university, garnered more than 11,000 signatures on change.org and invokes Title IX and ethical infractions, prompting a joint investigation by the Stanford Office of Ethics and Compliance and the Title IX Office. At the end of January 2023, Stephen Chen, Stanford Title IX Coordinator sent an email to one of the main initiators of compliant Kursat Pekgoz, CEO of a Turkish real estate company, with the message that Stanford would not conduct any further investigation.

Soon after publishing the Tweets, Dauber deleted her Twitter account. ¹⁴ ¹⁵ 92.75.203.159 (talk) 15:03, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Two of those sources are unreliable, and the sfchronicle source doesn't support your suggested prose. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:22, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Why remove the part about her having cancer? She posted about it multiple times on her personal Twitter (which was public and which presumably she was the only person who had access to) before she deactivated her Twitter. I know Twitter isn't always considered a reliable source but presumably if Michele Dauber were to have cancer she'd be the first to know about it. And I know this page is monitored by people close to her but if she's posting about it on her own Twitter she clearly wants people to know about it.12.228.217.214 (talk) 19:31, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Largely because of WP:PRIMARY, WP:BLP and because it relates to personal medical information. At least, that would be my take on it - Alison ^talk 23:28, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]