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Michael Phelps Swim School

After the 2008 Olympics, Michael and his Coach Bob returned to Baltimore and began to invest directly into Michael's dream of growing the sport of swimming. One way was through the Michael Phelps Foundation. Another was was by launching Michael Phelps Swim School {MPSS].

The platform for this project was the swim school that Michael actually learned to swim in: North Baltimore Swim School. This was a school that began as a supplement to the North Baltimore Aquatic Club in the 1990's, and quickly grew into one of Baltimore's best and biggest schools. Since Michael and Bob were returning to Meadowbrook, home of North Baltimore Aqutic Club and Swim School, it likely made perfect sense for Michael to launch this business from there.

In fall of 2009, North Baltimore Swim School was rebranded and relaunched as the first Michael Phelps Swim School. Simultaneously, MPSS created an adaptation of the curriculum for the Michael Phelps Foundation. This adaptation was to be used within the IM program.

By January 2010, local Baltimore health club Merritt Athletic Club became the first MPSS affiliate. They launched 3 additional Michael Phelps Swim Schools: Towson, Eldersburg, and Canton Maryland.

In the summer of 2010 Michael Phelps Swim School joined Baltimore City Public Schools in a summer learning program effort. MPSS provided 6 weeks of swimming lessons to Baltimore City Public School students. MPSS repeated this effort in 2011, doubling the size of the program.

In the fall of 2011 MPSS partnered with Velocity Aquatics in Buffalo, NY to launch the first MPSS affiliate outside of Maryland.

At that time, MPSS also became an official service provider for Baltimore City Public Schools. This entitled any school in Baltimore City to conduct business directly with MPSS.

References

Gapeeples (talk) 13:48, 24 January 2012 (UTC)Gary Peeples

Edit request on 15 February 2012

Please evaluate the last line of the first paragraph: "Furthermore, he holds the all-time record for most individual gold Olympic medals, at 14." This is in conflict with the Wikipedia page for Larisa Latynina which claims that distinction, and checking Michael Phelps list of medals on the Michael Phelps Wikipedia page, I count only 9 individual event gold medals. I believe that the sentence in questions refers to Latynina's record, mentioned in the previous sentence: "Phelps' Olympic medal total is second only to the 18 Soviet gymnast Larisa Latynina won over three Olympics, including nine gold." My apologies if I have not raised this question in the correct format.

80.189.95.143 (talk) 18:57, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Done I think you are right that the sentence was inaccurate. I removed the word "individual" which makes for an accurate "all-time record for most gold Olympic medals, at 14." It would also have been accurate to change the count and say "all-time record for most individual gold Olympic medals, at 9." Latynina had a total of 9 gold medals, 6 of which were in individual events. Celestra (talk) 20:31, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 28 June 2012

Typo under 2004 Olympic Trials section: "...he was still selected for the 4×10-m freestyle relay" should be "he was still selected for the 4×100-m freestyle relay".

Done Gap9551 (talk) 18:26, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! 66.74.137.123 (talk) 05:23, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

4x100 meter relay in 2012

This article says that he will be competing in the 4x100 meter Freestyle Relay in the 2012 Olympics but United States at the 2012 Summer Olympics#Swimming does not list him for that event. So, which is it? Tad Lincoln (talk) 04:12, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Marijuana Use

Is there a reason that his controversy about smoking marijuana is not included in the article? I personally think it would be progressive to show that smoking marijuana doesn't make you a "loser." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.124.198 (talk) 01:19, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Paragraph 16, the first section. 108.225.117.120 (talk) 01:21, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand what you're referring to. Paragraph 16 of the article doesn't say anything about that, if that's what you're referring to. 67.161.124.198 (talk) 03:09, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

i'll add something. btw, it's not wikipedia's job to illustrate whether or not smoking pot makes you a "loser" or not.Prefetch (talk) 03:57, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

It arguably caused a larger controversy than the drinking and driving incident. So why should it be excluded when the drinking and driving controversy remains? Sounds like censoring to me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.41.218.172 (talk) 04:02, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

"it's not wikipedia's job to illustrate whether or not smoking pot makes you a "loser" or not." -- Good point. I guess I felt more that it seemed it was purposefully left off Wikipedia so as to not tarnish his image or something. 67.161.124.198 (talk) 04:41, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

There's discussion in the talk pages archives on this subject, and the article did mention the issue. The prior text was removed yesterday by this edit. The text put back in today seems to cover the issue adequately. Kablammo (talk) 13:56, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Why the ambiguity of the "water pipe" for "tobacco or marijuana"? It's called a bong and it's used for cannabis. "Water pipe" is a prohibitionist phrase forced upon cannabis paraphernalia retailers to skirt prohibitionist laws. Similarly antagonistic, the term "marijuana" was developed as a scare tactic during Refer Madness propaganda (although the term has been reclaimed by the cannabis community, akin to the N-Word in the black community). Elevated articles rightly address the plant as cannabis (or by its varietal names: cannabis sativa, cannabis indica, or cannabis ruderalis). Additionally, it is entirely incorrect to say bongs are used for tobacco; again, law-skirting prohibitionist lingo. Furthermore, one does not "smoke" a bong. Joints and spliffs are smoked. Rather, bongs are "ripped" or "hit". In all correctness, the phrase should say "…photos surfaced of Mr. Phelps ripping a bong…" or "…photos surfaced of Mr. Phelps taking mad rips off the bong…" Although the magnitude of the rip would need to be assessed before said qualification.

But in all seriousness, the "tobacco or marijuana" part needs to be changed to "cannabis". It makes as little sense as saying a funnel with a hose attached can be used for chugging beer or water. Bongs and beer funnels are college party devices and their intent is clear and defined.Jthill4 (talk) 01:00, 13 July 2014 (UTC)John Hill

"Greater controversy" as a great revenge Russian mafia. Because / against Moskwa doping scandal.Where something about it knew in advance narko - Jank's brussels?109.134.140.145 (talk) 15:37, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Phelps' Olympic medal total passes Soviet gymnast Larisa Latynina (18) with 19.

Update, Done. Telecine Guy 05:24, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Consecutive gold medals

Not much to say. It's just wrong:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multiple_Olympic_medalists_in_one_event

Notice the athletes with 4 consecutive gold medals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.252.57.227 (talk) 21:29, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Fixed. Gap9551 (talk) 21:41, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Phelps was a resident of Harford County, Maryland, (not Towson, Mary.) until age four

http://www.baltimoresun.com/explore/harford/publications/the-aegis/ph-ag-phelps-0803-20120802,0,4654979.story 96.234.149.189 (talk) 02:57, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 3 August 2012

Recheck the date that Michael Phelps set his first world record. The math does not add up. He could not have been age 15 years, 9 months, on July 22, 2001, when his birthday is June 30th. 97.116.179.206 (talk) 04:20, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Done Well spotted! Mdann52 (talk) 16:07, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request

Phelps' win in the 200 IM makes him the first male swimmer ever to win the same event at three consecutive Olympics -> http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/swimming/story/_/id/8227208/2012-summer-olympics-michael-phelps-outduels-ryan-lochte-take-gold-200-im-20th-medal

I think this should go in the 2012 Olympics section. 75.94.63.254 (talk) 04:48, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

It's in the intro but not in the 2012 section. 75.94.63.254 (talk) 04:50, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Not done: no point repeating that. Mdann52 (talk) 16:06, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I thought information wasn't supposed to only be in the intro and not in the lower sections. 75.94.63.254 (talk) 18:11, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Done. Yes, that's correct, and it has been added to the 2012 section. The intro is only a summary of what is in the text, where the detail and cite should appear. Kablammo (talk) 18:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Time correction: 100m Butterfly at 2012 Summer Olympics

Under the 2012 Summer Olympics medals, it says Phelps swam the 100m butterfly in 50.21 seconds. The time was actually 51.21 seconds (checked on ESPN.com <http://espn.go.com/olympics/summer/2012/swimming/story/_/id/8230879/2012-summer-olympics-michael-phelps-wins-100-fly-gold-last-individual-event> and london2012.com <http://www.london2012.com/news/articles/phelps-wins-another-gold.html>).

Gabeandaaron (talk) 19:47, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Done. Thank you. Kablammo (talk) 21:18, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Changing something

It says in the article that Phelps won the 2000m for the 2005 World Championships. That should be 200m. I can't change it, but if someone can, that would be great. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FixingThings12 (talk • contribs) 21:25, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done. Thank you. – ツ Teammm ^{(talk · email)} 21:48, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

*shakes fist* You edit-conflicted me on fixing that. >:( Silverseren^C 21:49, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Awwww I'm sorry lol ! Please forgive me. – ツ Teammm ^{(talk · email)} 22:03, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

Retirement

Michael Phelps has confirmed he will retire from competitive swimming. Baltimore Sun Washington Post [1] [2] [3] [4] – ツ Teammm ^{(talk · email)}

Added (again). Gap9551 (talk) 17:01, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

This was also reported in the article: "Phelps stated he hopes to work with his Foundation more after he retires from competition following the 2012 Summer Olympics in London". That should be corrected, as all of these reports of retirement are premature.Royalcourtier (talk) 19:39, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

I rephrased it. Gap9551 (talk) 19:54, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

2000 Sydney Olympics

How come there is no mention of him there in the article? 24.218.161.224 (talk) 23:32, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

He was only in the 200-m butterfly and didn't earn a medal. Maybe there isn't enough to mention. Though he did become the youngest male (at 15) to make the Olympics and came in 5th. – ツ Teammm ^{(talk · email)} 23:40, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

It is in the article in the 'Early life' section. Gap9551 (talk) 19:27, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

For confusions sake, despite not receiving a medal, he should have the 2000 Olympics bullet pointed and mentioned in the article as it is in recent news that he has qualified for a record setting 5 Olympics now and people like me who were confused by how that's possible come to this article and can't find mention of his first Olympics which makes it look like he's only qualified for 4. I'll leave it to you wiki folk but this is an otherwise great wiki bio! 99.89.117.100 (talk) 14:55, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

 Done Gap9551 (talk) 06:51, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Featured article?

I've tried twice before (and failed) to promote this article to featured article status. However, I'm considering nominating this article again to FA status and was wondering if any experienced editors here could provide any tips on what needs to be improved. Obviously, dead links need to be replaced and maybe some more references. But I feel this article is very close to FA status. It's comprehensive, objective, and for the most part well-referenced. Prehaps there are some editors out there that would like to help me? He's the most decorated Olympian and the greatest swimmer of all time! I say lets make it happen. Philipmj24 (talk) 19:50, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Mention in xkcd

A bit of humour with Phelps: http://www.xkcd.com/1092/ Stéphane Charette (talk) 09:27, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Forget his medals, I don't think any other swimmer can make this claim to fame. Gap9551 (talk) 20:49, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Not the exact claim, but Mark Spitz was lampooned in Doonesbury 40 years ago: "And the sheets-- They smell of chlorine!" (I guess you had to be there.) Kablammo (talk) 23:51, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Greatest male swimmer ever: Mark Spitz or Michael Phelps?

There is this debate: Who is the greatest male swimmer ever, Mark Spitz or Michael Phelps?

Phelps won more gold medals. He also won 8 gold medals at a single games in 2008, while Spitz won only 7 in 1972.

On the other hand, Spitz set 7 world records back then, Phelps only 4.

Until recently I did not realize that there is another way in which Spitz is ahead. See this web site discussing the "rapid inflation of gold medals per Games, from 43 golds in 1896 to 302 in 2008:" http://www.idsia.ch/~juergen/goldcount2012london.html It ranks athletes by how many percent of all gold medals they won.

In 1972 there were only 195 gold medals, in 2008 there were 302. So Spitz won 7 out of 195, or 3.59%. Phelps won 8 out of 302, or 2.65%.

(The number of swimming events has also increased from 1972 to 2008. In 1972 there were fewer opportunities to win medals.)

Not sure whether this should also be mentioned in the article on Phelps? SpitzPhelps (talk) 16:57, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't think this should be mentioned in the article as the swimming program was almost the same in 1972 and 2008. The only difference was the 50m freestyle, which Phelps didn't swim (although Spitz might have). The different number of events outside swimming is not relevant when it comes to who is the greatest swimmer. Furthermore, Spitz didn't have semifinals in the 200m free and 200m fly. If Phelps wouldn't have had to swim those semis, he could have added another event to his program. You can also say that Spitz had an advantage because the world population was about half the present number so he had less potential competition. There are many factors that you can involve for context, and doing so in the article would be much too complex and confusing.

More importantly, being the greatest swimmer is not about 1 Olympics but the whole career. Spitz performed relatively poorly in 1968 while Phelps won 4 individual golds in 2004 (at almost the same age as Spitz in 1968). In the modern age Spitz would have swum a third Olympics and won more medals but then again he also benefited from other swimmers retiring early. It worked both ways.

By the way, Phelps didn't swim just 4 world records in 2008, both swum 7 world records in 1972/2008. Gap9551 (talk) 17:21, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Gap9551. I see your points. But note that there were 15 events in 1972, and 17 in 2008. I guess you agree that Spitz would have won the 50m too. SpitzPhelps (talk) 17:39, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes but there were 16 pool events in 2008, the 17th was the 10 km marathon. I don't know whether Spitz could have won the 50 free, and this would be speculation anyway (didn't he even consider withdrawing from the 100 free?) So if you want to make a point in the article, you could legitimately mention that the program differed slightly between 1972 and 2008 but that's about it. Gap9551 (talk) 17:59, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

I guess you are right. I certainly don't insist! I also think that the article on Spitz is a better place to mention this. SpitzPhelps (talk) 19:31, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 August 2012

i would like to change the picture of michael helps because i have a better picture of him and that picture doesnt do him any justice

Nicky7272 (talk) 02:10, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Not done for now: I can't find any uploads here or over at commons: under your username. Have you uploaded the photo? Please post a link to it here so it can be reviewed before it's included in the article. Cheers — Deon^talk 11:53, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 August 2012 (Career Best Time in 400 Meter Freestyle)

The "Career Best Times" section shows Phelps' career best at the 400 meter freestyle as 3:47.79 in Indianapolis, 2005. If http://www.usaswimming.org/_Rainbow/Documents/1984b77b-b480-49a7-b519-479331d99ac2/men_preformances.pdf is to be believed, Phelps' personal best is actually 3:46.73, set in 2003. This a bit more interesting than the mere ~1-second and 2-year difference might seem because it was an American record. Thus, not only is the actual time apparently incorrect, but the correction actually adds a minor career highlight. Statistical Mechanic (talk) 17:28, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Swimsuits

The word is "swimsuit" in English, and it has been for a long, long time. "Swim suit" is archaic. Please do the editing.
98.81.14.72 (talk) 10:07, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

 Done

As for your previous edits on this talk page, please note that it is not allowed to change the comments made by other editors, therefore I reverted those edits. See WP:TPO. It is not even allowed for minor linguistic improvements. Gap9551 (talk) 10:38, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Possessives

Numerous authorities on American English state that the correct possessive of Phelps is Phelps's. Note that Michael Phelps is an American, and actually this rule should hold internationally as well.
This rule applies in general for names that end in "s", and here are some examples: Abrams's, President Adams's, Douglas's, Evans's, Peter Graves's (Mr. Phelps's Impossible Mission Force), Gross's, Hess's, Hopkins's, King James's, John Paul Jones's, Lewis's, Louis's, Morris's, Norris's, Owens's, Parsons's, Weiss's, and Yates's.
Furthermore, the same also holds for other names that end in an "s" sound, such as Fox's, Rex's, Sax's, and Morse's.
98.81.14.72 (talk) 10:41, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

 Done I think you're right. Both Phelps' and Phelps's occurred in the article so it was inconsistent anyway. Gap9551 (talk) 10:51, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Some people do not pay attention to consistency at all, and especially not in the Wikipedia. Oh, I almost forgot. The first leader of the IMF was "Mr. Briggs", so his possessive would be "Briggs's". In the Wikipedia and elsewhere on the Internet, I see numerous cases where people did not know how to spell "bathroom", "bedroom", "dining room", "shoe size", "dress size", "eye color", "hair color", etc., correctly. There are lots of people (especially continental Europeans) who just do not "get it" about compound words in English. So think that it works like "Farbfernsehgeraet" - "color television set" - in German. Why do we have foreigners murdering English? When I write German, I write German the Deutsche way. Don't we deserve the same courtesy from the Hungarians, Polish, French, etc.?
98.81.14.72 (talk) 11:50, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm sure most editors do their best writing correct English, but especially non-native speakers will make mistakes, which is understandable. Feel free to point them out or fix them wherever you can. Gap9551 (talk) 18:40, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

The International System of Units

According to the SI system of units, there is to be a space between the number and the unit. See International System of Units.
98.81.14.72 (talk) 11:36, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Height

It is quite extraordinary that Michael Phelps's height on wikipedia is currently set at 6 ft 4. It is clear that whoever made that assumption has not verified his/her sources or has intrisically met the athlete. He is 6 ft tall, or possibly just under 6 ft 1; any article claiming otherwise is inaccurate. I cannot prove it but he is in fact a proximately 6 ft and I am sure that it is within Wikipedia's capabilty to found out his exact measurements. Can something be done about this? He is the most decorated, some would say the greatest, olympian of all time but such discrepancy between his alleged height on this article and his real built does not do this article justice.

Best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.250.204.168 (talk) 04:07, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello, both the USA swimming bio [5] and the London 2012 Games bio [6] have him at 6'4/1.93m. If you don't have very reliable sources claiming a different height we have to leave it at 6'4. Gap9551 (talk) 18:30, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, you can't really change it unless you have a new source, but he does not look 6'4". Having said that, he is well over 6'0". I know this because I met him (for a few seconds) at an event. I am 6'1", he was several inches taller than me. 6'3" minimum, maybe 6'3" 1/2" and he rounds up. 6'0" flat? Certainly not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.95.133.137 (talk) 02:26, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

7 mental toughness strategies

According to Splash magazine, Michael has 7 mental strategies to succeed:

1. Set clear challenging goals, His coach Bob Bowman always made him set goals from age 11. Michael would always have one major goal and then three challenging goals. 2. Work hard, To be able to achieve your goal, you have to work hard every day. You can't succeed without putting the work in. 3. Pay attention to the details, Michael is always focused on his motions and his technique. He is always trying to make the precise. 4. Stay calm and relax before the race, You have to stay calm to do the best that you can. 5. Use a set pre-race ritual, It helps you stay calm and it helps you concentrate. 6. Use mental rehearsal to prepare for races, When you visualize, it helps you be prepared for what the race is going to be like so you know what to expect. 7. Believe in yourself, By doing this, you are becoming confident about yourself.

These are some of the things that make Michael Phelps successful. Ari5338 (talk)

References

Achievements

Not only did he win the Golden Goggles award, he is the first male swimmer to win the same event in three consecutive Olympics. He accomplished this in both the 200m IM and the 100m fly. Finally, he broke the record for the most individual career Olympic medals that was held by Larisa Latynina.

References

Ari5338 (talk)

Comeback

Word on the street Phelps is planning a comeback. See this and this. Could be just rumors though, so I say let's wait until we hear official word from Phelps himself. Philipmj24 (talk) 00:00, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

michaelphelpsfoundation - Kansas City (Kansas City, MO)

http://www.bgc-gkc.org/bgc.aspx?pgID=891

404 --Link aedkghaudifik (talk) 19:14, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

"Admission" by Omega

I removed the claim that Omega admitted that Phelps finished second in 2008 to Milorad Čavić. There simply isn't a reputable source for that claim, and anything that noteworthy would certainly have been covered by actual news organizations. Instead, all those sources continue to state that Phelps won (for instance http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/summer08/swimming/news/story?id=3550164) JCO312 (talk) 13:10, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Confusion.

In the personal life section, there are two men in the photo with the caption, "Michael Phelps in 2009." Which one is phelps? And can this be pointed out on the caption? Future WWE Champion, DrewieStewie (talk) 08:24, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

What is this sentence trying to say?

In the 2012 Olympics section there's a sentence:

He had just barely out touched second-place finisher in his heat László Cseh by 0.07 seconds.

What is this trying to say? Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 14:32, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

 Done I rewrote the sentence. Cseh was locked out of the final, finishing 9th in the heats while Phelps scraped into the final in 8th in the heats. Gap9551 (talk) 22:27, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Small error in Michael Phelps bio -- Semi-protected edit request on 9 August 2015

The passage below regarding the age record for swimming world record holders is currently ambiguous, as readers often come away thinking (incorrectly) it implies Phelps also broke the 400 freestyle record at 16 years 10 months. Wiki makes it clear Phelps has never owned a 400m freestyle world record --- and it was Ian Thorpe, in August of 1999, that set the 400m freestyle world record at 16years and 10 months.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_record_progression_400_metres_freestyle

This is very easy to fix with a minor change.

CURRENT ENTIRE PARAGRAPH

"At the World Championship Trials for the 2001 World Aquatics Championships, on March 30, Phelps broke the world record in the 200-meter butterfly to become, at 15 years and 9 months, the youngest man ever to set a swimming world record, breaking the record previously held by Ian Thorpe when he lowered the 400-meter freestyle world record at 16 years, 10 months.[19] At the World Championships in Fukuoka, Japan, Phelps broke his own world record in the 200-meter butterfly en route to becoming a world champion for the first time.[20]"

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As you can see, the passage involving Thorpe lacks clarity, and many readers come away thinking Phelps broke a 400 freestyle record, and it muddles the age record this passage attempts to highlight.

By simply inserting a comma after 'Thorpe' -- and by replacing 'WHEN HE', with 'WHO' --- this passage becomes far less ambiguous, reads easier, and has more clarity.

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PASSAGE WITH FIX

"....Phelps broke the world record in the 200-meter butterfly to become, at 15 years and 9 months, the youngest man ever to set a swimming world record, breaking the record previously held by Ian Thorpe, who lowered the 400-meter freestyle world record at 16 years, 10 months."

Thank You.

SoccerIsArt (talk) 06:08, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Well spotted! I've split this into two sentences, which I think reads a little easier and also avoids using "record" in two different ways in the same sentence. Done, thanks. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 07:53, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 October 2015

At the end of the page it talks about Michael Phelps records/awards, with names of those preceding and succeeding. In the record section, it says "succeeded by incumbent" sometimes, and just "incumbent" on other sections. Please change! 71.195.233.79 (talk) 22:29, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Not done: Incumbent indicates that Phelps still holds the award/record. -- ferret (talk) 23:30, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

 Done It was a valid request regarding inconsistent terminology and I fixed it with this edit. Thanks, well spotted. Gap9551 (talk) 22:57, 17 November 2015 (UTC)