Talk:Michael Hayvoronsky
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[edit]Requested move 15 September 2018
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Consensus not to move, therefore, not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 16:46, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Michael Hayvoronsky → Mykhailo Haivoronsky – WP:UKRAINIANNAMES, WP:COMMONNAME, and Encyclopedia of Ukraine --Микола Василечко (talk) 06:51, 15 September 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 17:00, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- Support Michael Hayvoronsky → Mykhailo Haivoronsky per nomination and per transliteration form indicated in the above-mentioned Encyclopedia of Ukraine. Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 07:45, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. In this 14:08, 26 July 2008 edit, User:Bandurist claims that
Hayvoronsky was known as Michael in English circles.
Per WP:COMMONNAME, Wikipediagenerally prefers the name that is most commonly used as determined by its prevalence in a significant majority of independent, reliable English-language sources
. WP:UKRAINIANNAMES deals with transliteration of Ukrainian, or Romanization of Ukrainian. Per WP:TRANSLITERATE,The choice between anglicized and local spellings should follow English-language usage, e.g. the non-anglicized titles Besançon, Søren Kierkegaard, and Göttingen are used because they predominate in English language reliable sources
. In other words, we only fall back on transliteration of Ukrainian sources when adequate English-language sources are not available. As the subject resided in New York City from 1923–1949, and the New York Times published an obituary, I think we should be able to determine his common name, as published in English-language sources, e.g. Souvenir program of the Ukrainian National Chorus : in the name of Michael O. Hayvoronsky : Pittsburgh, Penna, 1940. – wbm1058 (talk) 13:19, 26 September 2018 (UTC) - Oppose. As per WP:COMMONNAME, which the present title satisfies per the facts presented by wbm1058 above. That article-titling policy does not support the proposed name. Paine Ellsworth put'r there 14:15, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.