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POV

This article is written entirely written from a Zionist POV. It presents the Zionist interests, actions and casualties with no regard to similar British and Arab issues.--128.139.104.49 (talk) 12:49, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi unknown individual, living in Israel, would you please do a first suggestion on how to improve the article lacking of POV, as you think. Just inserting a POV mark is easy. Chaver83 (talk) 18:51, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We are told about the site's importance to the Jewish settlements in its vicinity but not a word about its importance to the Arab settlements -- we aren't even told that there were any Arab settlements in that part of the country. We are told about Jewish casualties (even their names!) and not a word about Arab casualties. The whole story of the attack is told from a Zionist point of view -- the attackers were compelled to withdraw, made a second attempt, had some success, later occupied the site and drove away the enemy (imagine an Arab story: the defenders first succeeded to repel the enemy, and were later compelled to withdraw...).--128.139.104.49 (talk) 10:51, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, this article is completely one-sided. This fort was in the Palestinian village of Al-Nabi Yusha' ...but that is not even mentioned! Regards, Huldra (talk) 11:18, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to merge with Nabi Yusha

This article needs to be merged with the Al-Nabi Yusha article. The pre-48 information should be gleaned from the nabi yusha article, the information on the construction of the fortress and the israeli offensive should be taken from this article. If both sides can't agree to one sidebar, then have both the israeli and palestinian sidebars on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.179.118.115 (talk) 04:01, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

removing POV tag with no active discussion per Template:POV

I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:

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Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 12:38, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

The first source "The Koach Fortress by Peter Abelow" is a tour-guide's account in an unreliable magazine that doesn't even mention that there was an Arab village beside the fort. The second source http://eng.shimur.org/hareut (now unresponsive) claims that the fight was against the police! Zero^talk

I confirmed with a Hebrew speaker that the Hebrew version of shimur.org also says that the fight was against the police. Unless some other support can be found for that version of the story, which is entirely different from the standard version, this source should be discarded. Zero^talk 01:10, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]