Talk:Metropolitan Borough of Sefton

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Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move and dabpage created. JPG-GR (talk) 04:57, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sefton → Metropolitan Borough of Sefton — We now have four articles on the subject of "Sefton", and I think that having them all as hatnotes on this article isn't an ideal solution. I would propose:

(a) The article on the Metropolitan Borough is moved back to Metropolitan Borough of Sefton, which is currently a redirect to Sefton. (b) Sefton is made into a disambiguation page between the English borough, the English village, the Australian suburb, and the horse. — Tevildo (talk) 19:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Support as nominator. Tevildo (talk) 19:53, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Why not Sefton (disambiguation) as the dab page? Then you only need one hatnote. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 02:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- That would be appropriate if the Metropolitan Borough was the unambiguous primary meaning of the word. I don't believe it is - after, all, the Borough is named after the village. (According to the article on the Australian suburb, it's named after "Sefton in London", but I'm sure that's a mistake. The horse is probably named after the village, as well - the borough didn't exist when he was born). If consensus is against me, and the Metropolitan Borough _is_ the primary meaning, your suggestion should be followed - that's what we're here to decide. Tevildo (talk) 10:36, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Agree on both counts - and with single hatnote to disambig page for each article. Snowy 1973 (talk) 03:34, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Support move and disambiguation page at Sefton. Tassedethe (talk) 11:05, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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Borough status

When the borough was created in the Local Government Act 1972....

Borough status in the United Kingdom suggests that, alone among all the metropolitan districts created in 1974, as a result of the Local Government Act 1972, Sefton did not become a borough. The three former boroughs, Bootle, Crosby and Southport had charter trustees created to maintain their borough and mayoral status, which were abolished when the metropolitan district was granted borough status the following year, in 1975. Why Sefton was treated differently to every other metropolitan district, I haven't a clue. Nor can I find any confirmation of this elsewhere. Sefton Metropolitan Borough Council's website suggests that Sefton was a metropolitan borough from day one, and this is reiterated here. However, on the list of past mayors, the absence of any mayor for the period from the district's inception in 1974 until 1975, suggests that the Borough status article is probably correct. Skinsmoke (talk) 16:25, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Is the population really a 'Mid-2019 estimate'?

The page states that as of an alleged mid-2019 estimate, Sefton has a population of 273,790. However, there is no source to verify that any such 'estimate' has been carried out, and indeed that 273,790 figure is the exact same one recorded in the 2011 census. Why is this figure presented as something it is not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.111.204.245 (talk) 22:21, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]