Talk:Metaverse Shakespeare Company

Article significance

I've removed the prod tag, with explanation. Conventional media sources typically do not cover significant events in virtual worlds, even ones such as Second Life, where 1.4 million people logged on in two months. In the SL Globe Theater professionals from several countries created an environment with productions that have been ongoing for some months. One original play has already been performed. This has as much, or more theatrical significance, than, for example Wikipedia articles including one-off, non-professional high school drama productions, and as much encyclopedic weight as articles on places, events, and characters in computer games that have not been sold for years, are rarely played, would not be recognized by the vast majority of people, and have had no remarkable cultural legacy. Regards, Piano non troppo (talk) 07:26, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

See WP:OTHER. Without third party sources establishing notability, as neat as this is it doesn't belong here. TallNapoleon (talk) 15:26, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Name Change

I wish to propose a name change for this Wikipedia Page, the company have changed their name to The Metaverse Shakespeare Company, which I am currently working on a page for within my University Degree.

Jamiecarl1992 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamiecarl1992 (talk • contribs) 10:38, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

What evidence is there for the change of name? The website linked in the infobox still exists, although doesn't seem to have been recently updated, and none of the references cited are more recent than 2009. There is no evidence for the existence of any entity called "Metaverse Shakespeare Company"; on the face of it this article should be moved back to its earlier name as a record of a historical company. PamD 11:36, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

There seems to be an issue of verifiability on the name change. Perhaps it's just a matter of providing a reliable source for this. I'm quite sure that Jamiecarl1992 will take care of this over the next couple of days. --ToniSant (talk) 12:08, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

I have now added a citation in the opening paragraph which leads to the Company Blog, which announces the name change. Jamiecarl1992 (talk) 17:46, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Added Information

I have also added the Blackfriars Theatre and its information into the new section titled "Theaters in Second Life".

Jamiecarl1992

Editing the article

Hi, as part of my course at university I have to edit the Metaverse Shakespeare Company article and I would be happy to receive any recommendations of what should be improved in it. Here is a link to my sandbox: User:Violeta tsareva/sandbox Thanks! (talk) 17:37, 14 February 2013 (UTC))

Content Edits

I have added 2 sections to the article. One of them is named Technology explaining the tech aspects of the play which might be of some interest to certain users. The other is Financial problems which describes the issues the company encurred which led to the deletion of the Globe Theatre and 2 sims. I used relevant references and links to other wiki articles. (Violeta tsareva (talk) 15:33, 17 February 2013 (UTC))

Secondary Sources

Here is a clear definition from Wikipedia of Secondary Sources that may provide some help in fixing the article, I hope this helps:

A secondary source provides an author's own thinking based on primary sources, generally at least one step removed from an event. It contains an author's interpretation, analysis, or evaluation of the facts, evidence, concepts, and ideas taken from primary sources. Secondary sources are not necessarily independent or third-party sources. They rely on primary sources for their material, making analytic or evaluative claims about them.[5] For example, a review article that analyzes research papers in a field is a secondary source for the research. Whether a source is primary or secondary depends on context. A book by a military historian about the Second World War might be a secondary source about the war, but if it includes details of the author's own war experiences, it would be a primary source about those experiences. A book review too can be an opinion, summary or scholarly review. RosieGoundrill (talk) 15:51, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Secondary and Tertiary sources

Thanks, Rosie. I would have that in mind.

I know that the article is lacking secondary and tertiary sources which undermines its notability. However, during my research on the Metaverse Shakespeare Company, I found out that the bulk of information on the subject is based on primary sources, and the part relying on tertiary is limited and rather irrelevant. If there are any suggestions of what exactly to include as secondary/tertiary source I would be happy to add them to the article. (Violeta tsareva (talk) 16:55, 17 February 2013 (UTC))

Primtings?

The article makes a few references to "Primtings" without ever defining or linking that term -- is that a person, or some particular piece of jargon? Floatjon (talk) 21:45, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Source dump

I'm copypasting a bunch of decent sources that I turned up in the recent AfD, while performing a WP:BEFORE after it was nominated.

• • Scholarly sources
    • Learning and Teaching in the Virtual World of Second Life, Pages 151- 152 (scroll up in link, too)] has in-depth coverage discussing their theater, multiple productions, including audience participation etc, and their virtual academy and curriculum. The source is independent, it has 157 citations in google scholar (likely higher in other indexes according to WP:SCHOLAR#Citation metrics suggesting reliability, and is secondary.
    • Edinburgh Companion to Shakespeare and the Arts - Page 573 has more than a passing reference, but less in-depth, mentioning their theater and a bit about production process. It's Published by Edinburg University Press so it should be reliable/independent, and is a secondary source.
    • Shakespeare and the Digital World: Redefining Scholarship and Practice Page 221 also has more than passing reference, using them as an example of a virtual space where audiences could gather to watch a performances in a virtual theater.
  • Education-based scholar-adjacent resources
    • "The impact of the characteristics of a virtual environment on performance: concepts, constraints and complications." from Learning in Virtual Environments International Conference. [1] goes extremely in-depth on the effectiveness of the methods used in a performance produced by the company, including images of the company's theater from Second Life. This is a conference journal with several citations so should be reliable. The paper is half-credited to a participant, so it's not fully secondary, but see the sub-bullet below:
      • This above paper is also referenced by A Practical Guide to Using Second Life in Higher Education [2]. This book would fully qualify as a secondary and independent source.
    • Drama Education with Digital Technology [3] has more then a passing reference, is secondary/independent, and should be reliable based on the publisher Bloomsbury Publishing
  • Non-scholarly sources
    • The Unofficial Guide to Building Your Business in the Second Life Virtual World Page 186 describes them in-depth including the quality and care of their theater, troupe and production, and a bit about their sponsorship model/incentives. It's published by the American Management Association, suggesting it's reliable. It appears entirely independent/secondary but it's a bit harder to be 100% sure.

—siroχo 23:55, 27 June 2023 (UTC)