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This article is inaccurate. The MHRT Wales is a separate body from the England Tribunal, with its own separate rules and Chairman. There is no "Mental Health Review Tribunal (England and Wales)". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.27.12.230 (talk) 13:14, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like most of this article was added in 2005 but it looks like the system has changed a lot since then, notably in 2008 with a new First-tier tribunal and Upper Tribunal system of which mental health reviews seem like just one part. I'll try and update. Re the above comment I noticed http://www.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/Mental_Health_Review_Tribunal states: "The Mental Health Act 1983 still just refers to MHRTs (e.g. see s65 or s72). Where there is no need to distinguish between the English and Welsh organisations, this site will continue to refer to the MHRT as if it were a single entity." Sighola (talk) 05:06, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also http://www.mentalhealthlaw.co.uk/Mental_Health_Tribunal "On 3/11/08 the Tribunal system changed. In England, the Mental Health Review Tribunal became part of the Health and Social Care Chamber of the First-tier Tribunal. It is properly called the First-tier Tribunal (Mental Health) but in practice is often called the Mental Health Tribunal. In Wales the Tribunal is called the Mental Health Review Tribunal for Wales. Sighola (talk) 05:18, 8 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The quotation from Mental Health Law Online (which I maintain) above was written in 2008 before I noticed the Transfer of Tribunal Functions Order 2008, in force from 3 November 2008, which defines "the appropriate tribunal" as "the First-tier Tribunal or the Mental Health Review Tribunal for Wales", and replaces "a Mental Health Review Tribunal" throughout the Mental Health Act 1983 with (where appropriate) "the First-tier Tribunal", " the Mental Health Review Tribunal for Wales" or "the appropriate tribunal". Unfortunately, though I changed my pages containing MHA 1983 text in April 2009, I didn't correct the quoted sentence until 2017, and only noticed the Wikipedia talk page this month.

I see that there is a Wikipedia page entitled Mental health tribunal about tribunals internationally. Perhaps, to fit in with this, the current page could be renamed Mental health tribunals in England and Wales.

Or it may be thought there there are sufficient differences between England and Wales to merit separate pages: Mental Health Review Tribunal for Wales (there is a red link for this already on the current page), and maybe either Mental Health Tribunal in England or First-tier Tribunal (Mental Health). There is already a page for the Mental Health Tribunal for Scotland but none yet that I have found for the Mental Health Review Tribunal for Northern Ireland. JonathanMHLO (talk) 14:09, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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