Talk:Members of the Tasmanian House of Assembly, 2006–2010

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Changing "-present" to "-2010"

Isn't it a bit soon? Some candidates' positions are as yet unknown, and in any case the new parliament won't be sworn in for several weeks. -- Chuq (talk) 10:23, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The members change from the date of the election. It's actually backdated so that even the ones we aren't sure about yet will have technically been members from 20 March. So the members who retired - Napier, Cox, Hodgman, etc. - have most certainly concluded their terms, while those definitely defeated - both Butlers, Hulme, Singh, Sturges - have also ceased to be MHAs. Frickeg (talk) 11:32, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The ones I changed on the 20th itself were announced on the ABC page as having retired (did not contest), and Singh, Hulme and Sturges have all conceded. Orderinchaos 13:05, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't aware of this! Does this mean we should be editing Hodgman's article to state he is Premier? -- Chuq (talk) 22:29, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, because he isn't yet. (This happened over at Alan Carpenter back at the 2008 WA election, when it took 17 days between when the election was held and when the premier was sworn in.) However, premiers' terms are actually commissions and do not expire until their resignation (even if they lose their seat! - JH was still PM until 3 Dec 2007 even though his term as MP had concluded on 24 Nov and he had failed to be reelected) so David Bartlett is still in every legal sense the Premier of Tasmania and all his ministers remain sworn in, whereas politicians' terms expire at each election and they need to win them back at election. So with a premier, positive proof of resignation (i.e. a gazettal or somesuch) is needed to end their term. With a politician, positive proof of victory is needed to continue their term. However, to save time as most politicians do in fact retain their seats and early counting generally reveals some certainties, we tend to mark a whole heap present at the start anyway then close them off as defeats are announced. Orderinchaos 00:06, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ah right. Our crazy political system! I'm glad someone here knows how it works! :) -- Chuq (talk) 02:48, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]