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A fact from Mel Bartholomew appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 24 December 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Mel Bartholomew, who developed the time-saving square foot gardening method, said that he gardened "with a salad bowl in mind, not a wheelbarrow"?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/December. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mel Bartholomew.

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 02:36, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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A basic, 4x4, 16-unit square-foot garden

~~... that retired engineer Mel Bartholomew, who developed the efficient square foot gardening method, said he gardened "with a salad bowl in mind, not a wheelbarrow"?~~ Source: "He said of his philosophy, “I garden with a salad bowl in mind, not a wheelbarrow.”" NY Times
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Created by Thriley (talk). Self-nominated at 03:47, 27 September 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Mel Bartholomew; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

reviewing DrThneed (talk) 06:29, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

General eligibility:

New enough: - n
Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - n
Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article was nominated on 27 Sep, which I think is ten days after it was moved to mainspace, but I'm prepared to let it through if the promoter agrees to bend the rules.

Sources - all good, taking the NYT ones on AGF as I cannot read them. Reference 5 needs tidying up, it is a bare URL and needs converting to cite news template or similar, with a date.
"Square" of square foot gardening has been capitalised in places in the article - it shouldn't be, going by the style in the linked article about it (and therefore also needs lowercasing in hook).
Hook - I was actually able to read the paywalled NYT ref through Earwig (forgot about that as a trick!) but it reports the quote as "I garden with a salad bowl in mind, not a wheel barrel". That's a bit odd (I've never heard of a wheel barrel) but is apparently a common mistake in English according to Google so is possibly an accurate quote....can you confirm if original article says wheel barrow or barrel?

Otherwise all good, and I find the GIF eye-catching. DrThneed (talk) 06:52, 27 September 2023 (UTC) DrThneed (talk) 06:52, 27 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Thriley: Have the above been addressed? Z1720 (talk) 18:50, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am going to make a new hook that flows a bit better. Thriley (talk) 03:25, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Thriley: Have you been able to propose that new hook yet? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:00, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ~~that Mel Bartholomew, who developed the time-saving Square foot gardening method, said that he gardened "with a salad bowl in mind, not a wheelbarrow"?~~ Thriley (talk) 12:12, 5 November 2023 (UTC)Source: "He said of his philosophy, “I garden with a salad bowl in mind, not a wheelbarrow.”"[reply]

Have you fixed other issues noted in my review, Thriley? The s of square foot should not be capitalised (affects hook) and a ref format needs fixing. Otherwise OK. DrThneed (talk) 08:52, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Thriley: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 20:50, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yup. All has been fixed up. Thriley (talk) 01:00, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging reviewer DrThneed to return to this review when they can to see whether all issues have been addressed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:06, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reformatting ALT1 as ALT1a to deal with the hook issue raised by DrThneed and fix other formatting; striking ALT1 (and the original hook that ALT1 replaced). BlueMoonset (talk) 18:41, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1a: ... that Mel Bartholomew, who developed the time-saving square foot gardening method, said that he gardened "with a salad bowl in mind, not a wheelbarrow"?
- DrThneed has not returned after two weeks; new reviewer needed to finish this review. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:27, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

So sorry I missed the ping! Looking at it now. DrThneed (talk) 01:34, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Confirming issues have been addressed and ALT1a is good to go, thanks BlueMoonset. DrThneed (talk) 01:37, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]