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Title = Mehmet Aurelio ?

According to [1], Marco has gained Turkish citizenship and has adopted the Turkish name "Mehmet". Im not sure whether he has done it officially or simply as a gesture. Can someone clarify?--Kilhan 01:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He's the first naturalized player to play for Turkey? Where does this leave Muzzy Izzet? --81.154.114.117 14:01, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Izzet is a Turk but Aurelia is a Brazilian with a Turkish passport. Thats all folks. Deliogul 15:52, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So Aurelio has no Turkish ancestry, whereas Muzzy Izzet does?--MartinUK (talk) 23:30, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, Muzzy Izzet's father is from Turkish-Cyprus, making him a Turk, and don't shoot me for this, but I think it has to do with the fact that Turkish-Cyprus is only recognized by Turkey, but I'm not sure about that. In fact, Colin Kazim-Richards' mother was born in Turkish-Cyprus too and not in Turkey, and as you might have noticed, Colin has played for Turkey at Euro 2008. UmutK (talk) 12:59, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Muslim?

Did Marco Aurelio become a Muslim when he changed his name to Mehmet Aurelio?rokkafellah (talk) 00:44, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure, but I don't think so, as this would probably have been big news in Turkey. The namechange is something that you do as a Turkish citizen, but again, I'm not sure if you have to, or if it's just tradition. E.g: Jay-jay Okocha, Uche (Okechukwu) and Didier Six (among others) have or had all got Turkish citizenship and Turkish names. As I said, there are many more, you might find them by looking in the Notable players section of Turkish clubs.

BTW: Having (or not having) a Muslim name doesn't necessarily mean you are (or are not) a Muslim. I'm Turkish, living in Holland, and I met Turkish people with European names who were Muslim's + Mehmet Scholl (former German Football player), who is of Turkish descent, still has his Turkish/Muslim name, but as far as I know he's not a Muslim. (I could be wrong about that one though.) UmutK (talk) 20:54, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think I found something interesting about this: Gustavo Victoria, who plays a few years in Turkey now, has converted to Islam (together with his wife), but has no Turkish name, so I guess it is not mandatory (< hope that's the right word, but I think you know what I mean) to take a Turkish name. UmutK (talk) 01:50, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the replies and information, guys. And UmutK, I know what you mean by 'Having (or not having) a Muslim name doesn't necessarily mean you are (or are not) a Muslim' I've met many Muslims without Muslims names (some from their own culture or language)rokkafellah (talk) 06:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aurelio is not Muslim and Mehmet is not necessarily a Muslim name although the name has religious roots there are many atheist people who call their sons Mehmet because it's short and popular and practical. UmutK, regarding Gustavo Victoria, becoming a Turkish citizen has nothing to do with becoming Muslim. Victoria is not a Turkish citizen, so the example is irrelevant. Aurelio has become a citizen and changed his name as many people who become Turkish citizens do. I don't know why they do it though, Elvir Baljic and Elvir Bolic kept their names as it is - well, almost, Baljić became Baliç.

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