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Review: April 27, 2023. (Reviewed version).

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WikiProject Ancient Egypt to-do list:

Needed articles.

We should have an article on every pyramid and every nome in Ancient Egypt. I'm sure the rest of us can think of other articles we should have.

Cleanup.

To start with, most of the general history articles badly need attention. And I'm told that at least some of the dynasty articles need work. Any other candidates?

Standardize the Chronology.

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Stub sorting

Anyone? I consider this probably the most unimportant of tasks on Wikipedia, but if you believe it needs to be done . . .

Data sorting.

This is a project I'd like to take on some day, & could be applied to more of Wikipedia than just Ancient Egypt. Take one of the standard authorities of history or culture -- Herotodus, the Elder Pliny, the writings of Breasted or Kenneth Kitchen, & see if you can't smoothly merge quotations or information into relevant articles. Probably a good exercise for someone who owns one of those impressive texts, yet can't get access to a research library.

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This article was selected as the article for improvement on 28 November 2022 for a period of one week.

Text and/or other creative content from this version of Book of the Dead was copied or moved into Medjed with this edit on November 28, 2022. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Text and/or other creative content from this version of Book of the Dead was copied or moved into Medjed with this edit on May 1, 2023. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

A fact from Medjed appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 May 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that an ancient depiction of Medjed (pictured) became an Internet meme on Japanese social media?

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Stub vs excessive information

I have had an edit to this page reverted for "excessive information", but the page is listed as a stub. Should the stub listing be removed if additional information is to be considered "excessive", or do other editors have expanded edits in progress?

SeaOfBones (talk) 13:59, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think there's room for substantive information about the god's portrayal in media, such as summaries of analyses of media observers. But mere mentions in the vein of "he appeared in video game X" are generally discouraged in Wikipedia as accumulations of trivia. Sandstein 17:00, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 3 November 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) Colin M (talk) 21:40, 10 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Medjed (god) → Medjed – Clearly the primary topic with far more pageviews than the fish. Disambiguation page unnecessary per WP:TWODABS. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 15:22, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support. A. Parrot (talk) 15:23, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support - I'm not sure if it counts exactly, but medjed is also a group in the Persona 5 video game, and a switch game [1], [2]. So, there could be scope for a disambig... But these things are all named after the egyptian diety. This is the clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:06, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Persona 5 reference could probably be added to the "Internet meme" section if it was renamed "Cultural impact". As it's explicitly related to its popularity in Japan as a meme, Medjed being a supposed hacker group and all._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 01:23, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. bd2412 T 19:54, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Duplication of information

The two sections, Book of the Dead and New Kingdom "Papyri", essentially duplicate the same information from different aspects. Both are quotes from the Book of the Dead, with the second one simply being slightly longer. I have the Budge book which is one of the references. The book is based on the Papyrus of Ani, which Wikipedia itself admits is a New Kingdom text. This is the 17th chapter/spell, as mentioned in the other section. I hate to make a stub article shorter, but there is absolutely no reason to keep both these sections.

I'm late to the party here, but I agree: I've trimmed it down so that there's just a single quote.--Gen. Quon_[Talk] 16:12, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

amogus

this page is being more popular, because it looks like the character of among us --Zemxer (talk) 12:24, 13 May 2021 (UTC) among them[reply]

Attribution

Text copied from Medjed (fish) to Medjed. See history of former article for a list of contributors. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 15:45, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Medjed/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: A. Parrot (talk · contribs) 23:45, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

Looks like a good GA candidate that says about all there is to say about this obscure deity, but I have a few nitpicks.

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
For the most part the prose is fine, but in a couple of places it could be more fluid. Where it says "Kamigami no Ki, Oh, Suddenly Egyptian God", I wasn't sure at first if it was listing two separate anime series or the Japanese and English titles of a single series. I think "…his 'cartoon ghost'-like portrayal in vignettes on the Greenfield papyrus…" is excessively compact and would work better as "…his portrayal in vignettes on the Greenfield papyrus, resembling a 'cartoon ghost'…"
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
Earwig's tool shows no sign of copyright violation, and the text seems closely based on the sources. The Egyptological sources are all solid (except Budge, who is used with appropriate caution). While I'm less comfortable judging pop-cultural sources, they all seem good enough for documenting the facts they're used for here. My only problems are that Anime News Network is inconsistently italicized, and that Citations 28a and 28b, referring to Salvador 2017, use an unnecessarily broad page range. I think it could be reduced to pp. 17–18.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

@A. Parrot: First off, thanks for the review! How do these changes look to you?--Gen. Quon_[Talk] 19:20, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The third Anime News Network ref (Citation 30) still needs to be made consistent with the other two, but aside from that, I think it looks good. A. Parrot (talk) 07:14, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@A. Parrot: Whoops! My mistake. That should be fixed now.--Gen. Quon_[Talk] 16:02, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pass. Congratulations! A. Parrot (talk) 16:27, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 20:04, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Medjed

... that Medjed (pictured) became an internet meme on Japanese social media? Source: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-07-31/the-obscure-egyptian-god-medjed-and-his-bizarre-afterlife-on-the-japanese-internet/.91149
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Liminal space (aesthetic)

Improved to Good Article status by Gen. Quon (talk). Nominated by BorgQueen (talk) at 12:29, 28 April 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Medjed; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Recent Good article, hook is cited and interesting, sourced throughout and no apparent copyvio. IMO ALT1: ... that an ancient depiction of Medjed (pictured) became an internet meme on Japanese social media? would be a better hook. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 14:12, 28 April 2023 (UTC) Image is freely licensed, displays clearly, and complements the hook. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 16:31, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BorgQueen: how do you feel about the hook suggestion? Also I think the image is ok, because it is derivative of an ancient image. Bruxton (talk) 19:52, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruxton: I love it! BorgQueen (talk) 19:58, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]