Talk:Medicine Wheel/Medicine Mountain National Historic Landmark

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Renamed

The NHL has been renamed to Medicine Wheel/Medicine Mountain National Historic Landmark (see ref). -- Firefox13 (talk) 07:46, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Baseless claim on this wikipedia page

Astronomer Jack Robinson has further proposed that cairn pair FD was used to observe the rising of the star Fomalhaut, which would have lined up with its rising point between AD 1050 and AD 1450, when Fomalhaut had its first heliacal rise roughly a month before the summer solstice. A carbon date for the Bighorn Medicine Wheel comes from a piece of wood found in cairn F, corresponding to an age of no more than 220 years, roughly in the middle of the 18th century. However, this date can only be considered as a minimum age, as the wood may have become lodged in the cairn after construction.

This is a copy and paste job from the cited website, http://www.crystalinks.com/bighorn.html. There's no reference or further information to go on. I can find no other literature on the whole internet about "Astronomer Jack Robinson". Can this passage be removed, and leave the estimated date at the site to be 1700 to 1760, as is supported by Eddy's peer-reviewed paper? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.200.143.174 (talk) 04:31, 3 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Section: Little People and Vision Quests

The entire first paragraph is an entire load of wtf, presenting mythology as fact. Also who are the 'A'aniiih'? Are they the Gros Ventre people? Have they really been there for 'tens of thousands of years'? (very unlikely), the vision quest stuff is presented as fact not as folklore, and is "Hii3einoonotii." a misspelling or is there actually supposed to be a 3 in there? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Victoriosissimus (talk • contribs) 18:06, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Astronomical alignments

This page doesn't even come close to representing the Medicine Wheel from a Native perspective. The astronomical theory is a good story, but it's derived 100% from the minds of Western European culture. Eddy did not unmask some hidden meaning in the Wheel's design. For one, paleoclimatology indicates that Medicine Mountain and the Medicine Wheel would likely have been covered in snow during the spring and fall equinoxes. Historic accounts refer to an "ice field" on Medicine Mountain that was surrounded by a rope made from an unknown material, presumed to be leather, made by "the Indians." This particular account was mentioned in the daily work logs of a former District Ranger on the Medicine Wheel Ranger District in the 1920s (contact the Medicine Wheel Ranger District Archaeologist regarding the referenced work log). Even in modern times, the road to the Medicine Wheel is often covered in snow through late June. The astronomical theory has even been weaponized to oppose the establishment of the Historic Preservation Plan by the Forest Service in a modern iteration of the "Moundbuilder Myth," wherein the the alleged age inferred by astronomical theorists presupposes its construction by peoples inhabiting the Bighorns thousands of years ago. Archaeological evidence strongly suggests an affiliation with the ancestors of the Crow and indicates that the Wheel is a very important place in a much larger archaeological landscape in the vicinity. Unfortunately, ongoing and blatant illegal artifact collecting, largely ignored and deprioritized by the Forest Service, continues the erasure of information crucial to understanding the Medicine Wheel's context in the archaeological geography of the northwest Bighorn Mountains.

'This article would be improved significantly by a more thorough discussion of documented Native American narratives and oral traditions, including the Cheyenne, Shoshone, Arapaho, and other tribes represented by the Medicine Wheel Alliance and Medicine Wheel Coalition.' 63.158.122.123 (talk) 02:00, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds like, you know more about it than I do, so it'd be useful if you gave sources for where to get this information - if you don't know how to do fancy citation formatting, that doesn't matter, if you say where to find the information somebody else will know how to do the formatting, but the way Wikipedia works things can't be put in unless there are published sources for them, so if you want this information to be in the article it'd be useful to know where to find published sources that confirm it. Wombat140 (talk) 00:56, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wyoming Sawmills

An industry group known as Wyoming Sawmills filed a lawsuit challenging the Forest Service's management of the National Historic Landmark via the Historic Preservation Plan (HPP) established in 1996. The group, represented by William Perry Pendley appealed lower courts' decisions upholding the HPP all the way to the Supreme Court, which declined to consider the appeal. Wyoming Sawmills also filed similar lawsuits against the Black Hills National Forest. William Pendley was appointed amid much controversy by Donald Trump as the acting director for the Bureau of Land Management. 63.158.122.123 (talk) 04:07, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

William Perry Pendley 63.158.122.123 (talk) 04:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]