Talk:Mazar (mausoleum)

Merging

Mazar mean Shrine in Arabic-language (Read hear) , for this I saw should be merge --Muhib mansour (talk) 05:10, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

No it doesnt. Mazar means mazar. Sometimes it is translated as mausoleum, sometimes as shrine, depending on the whim of a translator. There is a similar Hebrew term Ohel (grave), also translated randomly; same with terms maqam and dargah. Loew Galitz (talk) 19:19, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Masjid

'Masjid, plural masājid, means a place of prostration or prayer, and is often used by Shi'a for shrines to which mosques have been attached.' I thought 'masjid' was just a mosque in Arabic? Titus Atomicus (talk) 06:16, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

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Non-Muslim mazars?

On the DAB page smb added "sometimes, but not always, Muslim shrines". The lead here also doesn't contain the word Muslim. I can imagine the Arabic word being gradually used in majority-Muslim or Muslim-influenced regions for non-religious shrines as well, but is it so? And if it is, it's a development of the initial meaning, which maybe deserves its own, separate section, but doesn't affect the main and initial meaning, that of Muslum shrine - unless the secular meaning and use has overseeded the religious one. Pls clarify. Thanks, Arminden (talk) 14:48, 27 January 2024 (UTC)

Persian word

Mehdimazar1400 (talk · contribs) added in 2018 (here) on the Mazar DAB page an interesting section on two Persian homophones, one related to traditional medicine and the other used in old Persian poetry. It has been removed from there because it wasn't the proper place for it, but it should be checked and, if found correct, used somewhere else (here, or in the context of popular pharmacy, henna, Iranian culture, old professions or whatever). Adding to Wiktionary should be considered, but creating a new page here would go too far, as this is ENGLISH Wiki, and the Farsi meanings haven't made it into English. Consider though that we do have a Mazari DAB page!

Here it is, a bit copy-edited by me:

Māzār (Arabic: مازار) is a Persian profession name used for a person who deals in milling or grinding henna leaves and sells it in powder form. This type of business is still alive in some parts of Asia, like in Iran, especially in the ancient Yazd province. The most famous mazar business is owned by the centuries-old Atabaki/Mazaratabaki families.

Māzāri (Arabic: مازاری) is a place for milling henna or other herbs. However, in the Persian Dehkhoda Dictionary, it means 'apothecary' or 'experienced pharmacologist'.

A māzāri milling system for henna and other herbs

Another meaning of māzār in Farsi (Persian) is 'do not hurt', a verb in its negative form used in ancient Persian poetry. It is an acronym for "Mayāzār". An example is a Hedayat poem:

ما زار به عشق تو و دل غمزده ٔ تست

زین بیش دل غمزده ٔ ما را مازار

If the Farsi word mazar is spelled like màzâr (مزار), it means 'shrine'; dari is a synonym mostly used in Afghanistan.

Note: Google Translate couldn't fully translate the verses, it came up with "We mourn your love and your sad heart / Zain Bish our sad heart".

Not sure "māzār" can really be an acronym for "mayāzār", it looks like a misunderstanding of the term acronym to me.

References

Arminden (talk) 15:30, 27 January 2024 (UTC)