Talk:Mayors in New Zealand

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A fact from Mayors in New Zealand appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 24 August 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that New Zealand mayor Georgina Beyer was the world's first transgender mayor?

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 22:31, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that there are currently 67 mayors in New Zealand?~~

Source: "There are currently 67 territorial authorities in New Zealand, each with a mayor elected from the district at large, together with over 700 councillors." link

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5x expanded by TheLoyalOrder (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

TheLoyalOrder (talk) 02:02, 12 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]

I'll know a thing or two about local government in New Zealand. I shall review this. Schwede 66 04:37, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Very nice work! Content first. What you call "Provincial legislation councils"—a term that I've never heard and I suspect one that does not exist—refers to New Ulster Province and New Munster Province; you might want to rephrase that. Please correct "mayors that worked" to "mayors who worked". I shall note that I have only ever heard first-past-the-post voting being abbreviated as FPP in New Zealand, and not FPTP. As one doesn't register in New Zealand, "two people registered within the area" isn't quite correct; rather, those two people must be on the electoral roll for the respective local authority. What I'm missing—and note that this is not a DYK-pass criterion—is historic information about term length and voting procedures. Initially, councillors appointed one from within their ranks as mayor. This changed to election at large, with the initial term length of one year, then two years, and finally three years. Those changes were all legislated for. Ah well, material for a future article expansion, I suppose. Now to the DYK criteria. Article expansion was started on 10 August. It's a massive 30-times expansion. Earwig is clean. The article is suitably referenced and neutral. The hook is referenced but a bit bland in my view. The notable mayors provide material for more interesting hooks. Or you could make something up about the newest mayor being a double-Olympic gold medallist. A notable mayor missing from your list is Charles Mackay (mayor), and he could no doubt provide an interesting hook as well. No QPQ needed as the tool shows just one previous credit. Please have a look at this feedback and see what you can achieve, TheLoyalOrder. Schwede 66 05:32, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Kia ora Schwede66, I reworded the "provincial legislation councils" bit, the source uses the phrase "provincial legislative councils" and says they're based on the provinces in the act.
- Corrected the grammar on "mayors that worked".
- Changed FPTP to FPP.
- Reworded the candidacy criteria section changed "registered" to "on the electoral roll"
- I added that mayor you suggested because it's definitely interesting
- how about ALT2 "... that some notable mayors from New Zealand include Georgina Beyer, the world's first transgender mayor, and Charles Mackay, an attempted murderer?" as a hook instead? TheLoyalOrder (talk) 06:05, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'd think that concentrating on a single fact makes better hooks. For example, taking the first half of your suggestion: ALT1 ... that New Zealand mayor Georgina Beyer was the world's first transgender mayor? Schwede 66 09:15, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    - ok yeah that sounds good as wellTheLoyalOrder (talk) 23:04, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      - Would you like to propose additional hooks or shall we leave it at that? Schwede 66 03:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        I'm new to DYK process, does it help to suggest other hooks? I'm good with that hookTheLoyalOrder (talk) 03:50, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 and ALT2 are approved. Schwede 66 05:39, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]