Talk:Mayoralty of Pete Buttigieg

Comment on lead

Hi @SecretName101: I saw this article listed on WP:GAN. I don't have capacity to pick up the review at this time, but I just wanted to leave a quick note and state that the lead section should be revised and expanded. It is currently too short. Per MOS:LEAD, a lead should provide an overview of all of the article's main points. Additionally, I note that there are citations currently present in the lead. This is likely acceptable under MOS:LEADCITE, but I question whether his nickname of "Mayor Pete" deserves mention in the lead section.

I might be able to pick up the review in the future, if another editor doesn't step in before I do. Edge3 (talk) 19:20, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Changes made since GA review

• Improved structure of lead
• Many single-sentences eliminated. Some still exist for information that is important to incude, but for which multiple sentences seem excessive, and for which no related information makes sense/exists that can be merged to form a larger paragraph
• Phrasing revised
• A number of grammar and spelling errors resolved
• Retitled the section titles that previously shared a name
• A number of suggested edits undertaken
• Some City of South Bend citations removed/substituted. Others remaining are supplemented by non-primary source citations, or are items for which the official source makes sense, such as line items on a municipal budget, numbers reported by the city (contextualized that they were reported numbers within the text), and what the advertised/stated goal of municipal projects were

SecretName101 (talk) 19:50, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

@Edge3: per your request to inform you if I resubmitted this article for Good Article consideration, I am informing you. SecretName101 (talk) 19:52, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

@SecretName101: Thank you! I'm currently pre-occupied with another article, and I also am busy in real life with personal errands. However, I will be happy to pick up this review at the earliest opportunity, if another reviewer doesn't beat me to it. Edge3 (talk) 20:43, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Regarding ongoing GA review

@Edge3: I have implemented a number of changes based off the feedback you have already suggested. A few concerns that I found with your feedback,

• I disagree that the section on the "Vacant and Abandoned Properties Initiative" is puffery.
  • Describing it as a "signature program" is not puffery. It has been described as such by many media outlets, and indeed was a signature project of his first term. Much like one could say that the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act was a signature legislation of Obama’s first term, without running into puffery concerns, one could call this a signature program of his first term without running into puffery.
  • Describing that it met its goals, and at a faster rate than promised, is not puffery.

• "Established by his predecessor, Luecke, in 2009 to assess ways to reduce city's negative impact on the environment". You are wrong, I believe. No comma is needed after "2009". Without the part clarifying that his predecessor was Luecke, would the sentence not be written “established by his predecessor in 2009 to assess….” rather than "established by his predecessor, in 2009, to assess….”?

Also..

• "A significant example was the former Bendix Corporation headquarters and factory, which the city sold to Curtis Products in 2014". This indeed was a significant example of a city-owned property which was sold off. Does not seem to be puffery. Nevertheless, I removed the word "significant" and just described it as "an example"

SecretName101 (talk) 22:09, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@SecretName101: Hi! I'm not the reviewer this time around. I think you meant to ping Bait30, which I've just done for you. I'm thrilled that another editor was able to step in! I've been super busy in real life, and this article is quite long and requires a lot of time to read, which is why I haven't picked up this review. Edge3 (talk) 22:14, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Pinged you by accident. Meant to ping @Bait30: SecretName101 (talk) 22:16, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@SecretName101: could you respond in the GA review itself a la Talk:2017 World Championships in Athletics – Women's marathon/GA1 instead of in a separate section? It makes it easier for me to keep track of your comments. I'll copy your stuff and respond to your comments in there.  Bait30  ^{Talk 2 me pls?} 23:03, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by MeegsC (talk) 11:34, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

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Pete Buttigieg

• ... that, when the mayoralty of Pete Buttigieg began in 2012, Pete Buttigieg (pictured) was only 29 years old, making him the youngest mayor at the time of a United States city with a population over 100,000?
  • ALT1:... that, during the mayoralty of Pete Buttigieg, Pete Buttigieg (pictured) was deployed for several months in Afghanistan as a lieutenant in the United States Navy Reserve?
  • ALT2:... that, during the mayoralty of Pete Buttigieg, Pete Buttigieg (pictured) came out as homosexual, becoming the first openly gay elected executive in the state of Indiana?
  • ALT3:... that a key initiative of the mayoralty of Pete Buttigieg saw Pete Buttigieg (pictured) set the goal of repairing or demolishing 1,000 blighted properties in the city in a period of 1,000 days?
  • ALT4:... that, during the mayoralty of Pete Buttigieg, Pete Buttigieg (pictured) implemented a complete streets program named "Smart Streets"?
  • ALT5:... that, during the mayoralty of Pete Buttigieg, Pete Buttigieg (pictured) oversaw the improvement of the city's sewer system with a $150 million "Smart Sewer" program?
  • ALT6:... that, during the mayoralty of Pete Buttigieg, Pete Buttigieg (pictured) faced controversy for firing the city's first African-American police chief for wiretapping?

Improved to Good Article status by SecretName101 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:03, 29 March 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing:
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
• Other problems:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting:
• Other problems:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: New GA; I made a quite number of copyedits but the article is otherwise well sourced and neutrally written after the GA review. For any of the hooks, you should replace the main link with his mayoralty to reduce duplication. I like the original or Alt3 best, except remove "a period of" since we know 1,000 days is a period of time. Alt2 should be "came out as gay". Reywas92^Talk 00:02, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

• FWIW I think ALT3 is kind of boring. ALT0 is fine, though the caveat "... with a population over 100,000" makes it feel a little weak. ALT1 is also OK. My preference would be for a condensed version of ALT2. Perhaps one of these: › Mortee _talk 01:11, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

  ALT2a:... that, during the mayoralty of Pete Buttigieg, he (pictured) came out as the first openly gay elected executive in Indiana?

  ALT2b:... that, during his mayoralty, Pete Buttigieg (pictured) came out as Indiana's first openly gay elected executive?

  @SecretName101: the review by Reywas92 ticked everying except for QPQ. Is this one of your first five nominations, or have you reviewed another nomination? Also, anything to add about which of the various ALTs you prefer? › Mortee _talk 22:17, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

I reviewed another nomination. SecretName101 (talk) 20:37, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

@Reywas92: looks like QPQ was done later here. If this is good to go, could you tick it for whichever ALTs you think are suitable? › Mortee _talk 07:39, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

I like both ALT2a and ALT2b. The rest of the DYK is approved. Reywas92^Talk 01:58, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

SecretName101 and Reywas92, I chose to promote hook 6, incorporating Reywas92's suggestion re: "his mayoralty" and changing "for firing" to "when he fired" to avoid having the word "for" twice in quick succession. If this change isn't okay, please ping me. MeegsC (talk) 12:36, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

• ... that, during his mayoralty, Pete Buttigieg (pictured) faced controversy when he fired the city's first African-American police chief for wiretapping?