Talk:Max Griffin

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Requested move 30 August 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Max Griffin (fighter) moved to Max Griffin. – wbm1058 (talk) 22:45, 20 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

– Primary topic per Google results and page views.

https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&range=latest-20&pages=Max_Griffin_(fighter)%7CMaxwell_Griffin ♡RAFAEL♡^(talk) 00:31, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support the first proposal, per pageviews. Maxwell Griffin is fine where he is. 99to99 (talk) 02:37, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support 1. Moving Maxwell Griffin seems unnecessary, we can just use hatnotes. 162 etc. (talk) 04:34, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support the first, oppose the second since Maxwell and Max are different names.--Ortizesp (talk) 05:01, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. The soccer player is also known as Max Griffin: [1]. DrKay (talk) 15:39, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support both due to page views. ––FormalDude talk 00:35, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support Max Griffin (fighter) → Max Griffin per nomination, accompanied by Max Griffin → deleted to make room for move and oppose Maxwell Griffin → Maxwell Griffin (soccer player) per 162 etc. and Ortizesp. A hatnote atop each entry, indicating each sportsman's plain name without a parenthetical qualifier, would indeed suffice. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 02:44, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Giant Snowman 11:50, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose both moves proposed; the first one because I don't think there is a PRIMARYTOPIC, the second because the long-standing and well-established disambiguation would be '(soccer)', not '(soccer player)', as shown recently in the discussion at Talk:Quinn (soccer)#Requested move 21 August 2021. Pinging those who have !aleeady voted who might not be aware - @RafaelHP, 99to99, 162 etc., Ortizesp, FormalDude, and Roman Spinner:. NB even if the first article is moved, then the second should stay where it is and simply hatnote between the two per WP:TWODABS. Giant Snowman 11:56, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with it just being (soccer) but the fighter definitely is the primary topic. ♡RAFAEL♡^(talk) 18:32, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the second. (1) The qualifier, if needed, would be (soccer); see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sportspeople)#Association football (soccer). (2) But no qualifier is needed. There's no evidence that the fighter is called "Maxwell". For all I know, he might have been christened Max, Maximilian or Maximus, or something else. Narky Blert (talk) 15:39, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.