Talk:Maui Academy of Performing Arts

This article was nominated for deletion on 2008-02-20. The result of the discussion was keep.

Theatre Low‑importance

	Theatre portal This article is part of WikiProject Theatre, a WikiProject dedicated to coverage of theatre on Wikipedia. To participate: Feel free to edit the article attached to this page, join up at the project page, or contribute to the project discussion.TheatreWikipedia:WikiProject TheatreTemplate:WikiProject TheatreTheatre articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Hawaii Low‑importance

	Hawaii portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Hawaii, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Hawaii on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.HawaiiWikipedia:WikiProject HawaiiTemplate:WikiProject HawaiiHawaii articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

The reason for tags

A tag, in this case a notability tag, is a broadcast for assistance. The tag puts the article in the category of "Articles with topics of unclear notability". There are editors who go around improving articles. They look in a category to find articles to work on. Some people like to "wikify" articles. Others like to improve the writing style. Some find references for articles. Editors go to a category and pick an article to improve. Putting a tag on an article makes it more likely that someone will improve the article.

I am restoring the notability tag. If you want other editors to help improve this article, please leave the tag in place. Sbowers3 (talk) 00:07, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Need third-party references

Your references help to verify the content of the article, but do not help demonstrate notability. For that you need references from independent, reputable sources such as newspapers or magazines. Sbowers3 (talk) 03:58, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm unsure what notable means in this case. Are you looking for more media coverage? I know of a consistent amount of local media coverage (Maui News) over 3 decades. Only their more recent articles are online. I could try to dig up the older articles that are not online. There are also a number of grants and donations. I did see a definition of notable meaning the organization has to contribute to the culture of the area. Btakita(talk) 19 February 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 07:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In Wikipedia, "notability" means more than its dictionary definition. Please read Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). All you need is a few non-trivial mentions of the organization. When I looked a few days ago you had one very good reference. Now there are so many it's hard to separate the wheat from the chaff. I'll work on it later today. I am sure that you have or can find all that you need. The lack of good references is what triggered the AFD discussion, but in a day or two we'll have the article in good shape. Sbowers3 (talk) 12:52, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. Btakita (talk) 17:18, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(outdenting) I think it now satisfies the notability guideline and will pass the AFD. Here are a few things I did, which you could do in the future (on this article or other articles).

I formatted the references to make it easy to identify the publisher, which helps identify which ones are reliable sources.
I changed some of the lists into prose, e.g. the list of grants.
I extracted facts from the references and integrated them into the article. E.g. they bought a building, they have an annual dance concert. They aren't terribly important facts, but they are an opportunity to add a footnote to non-trivial coverage in a newspaper.
I removed the long list of reviews of their performances because I think they didn't add to the article. But note: if any of the people mentioned in those reviews have gone on to be notable in their own right, it would be useful to mention those people and footnote them. E.g. if any of the guest choreographers have Wikipedia entries, it would be useful to add their names to this article.

I'm not a great writer but I think the article is at least okay. Sbowers3 (talk) 23:17, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]