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A fact from Masurian Canal appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 1 May 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that according to rumour, the Masurian Canal (abandoned lock structure pictured) was built to serve a U-boat facility?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/May. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Masurian Canal.

Expanding Article

I'm not sure if anyone is actively editing this page, but I'm going to try to spend some time translating content from the german version of the article. I've added a uk canal info box. This is a problem in that it uses imperial measurements, and I will try to build a metric one, or talk to the UK waterways editors, to see if I can have it handle both imperial and metric. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drew.sonne (talk • contribs) 10:22, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This would be great. For conversion between imperial and metric, use {{convert}}, which does it automatically, and please do not forget to add reliable sources to the new text (they could be in German as well).--Ymblanter (talk) 10:25, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BorgQueen (talk) 20:04, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Remains of a lock structure

... that according to rumour, the Masurian Canal (abandoned lock structure pictured) was built to serve a U-boat facility?

Eine Legende sagt, dass die Deutschen den Kanal angeblich zum Transport von U-Booten vorgesehen hätten, die in Mauerwald hätten hergestellt bzw. repariert werden sollen. In historischen Urkunden gibt es jedoch-wenigstens bis heute- keine Beweise dafür zu finden. (English: legend says that the Germans allegedly intended the canal to transport submarines that were to be manufactured or repaired in Mauerwald. However, there is no evidence of this - at least up to now - in historical documents.) source
The internal dimensions of [two buildings] are so large that when the site was investigated after the war, it was thought that these were factory buildings that were to be used for the assembly of U-boats, which, when completed, were to be sailed through the Masurian Canal down to the Baltic. This created a legend that still endures despite being disproven. source

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Marble Hall, Derby

5x expanded by MIDI (talk). Self-nominated at 13:19, 30 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Masurian Canal; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

REVIEWING jengod (talk) 23:02, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Comprehensive article on an interesting engineering ruin; the fact of the legend is well-sourced; the photo is CC-by-3 and clear enough even in small format; thank you for your contribution to the encyclopedia. Nice job. jengod (talk) 00:17, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What for?

It would be nice to see in the article a discussion of why anyone wanted such a canal. It would have been very expensive; there must have been specific gains expected. They may be obvious to experts but not to readers like me. Also, the reasons are likely to have changed with time. Zaslav (talk) 02:07, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

According to the map in the area there is a lot marshland and forested land. Now there is a railway, I don't know if it was there in that period, but I guess it would have been busy and it doesn't go in the direction of Kaliningrad anyway. An alternative way to transport goods seems a reasonable explanation. Especially if the Germans wanted to expand their settlements in an area contended with the Poles. WornOutCog (talk) 14:26, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Długopole lock

The co-ords are given as 54.3062°N 21.4948°E, but I think they should be 54.3039°N, 21.4948°E; the former location appears to be 265 m slightly west of north from where the structure seems to be. Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 08:47, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Closer inspection shows that the structure seems to be located at 54.3060°N, 21.4949°E, about 26 m slightly east of south from the given co-ords. Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 09:23, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious claim

The claim that the real purpose was to serve a secret U-boat facility may have been useful to get a nomination and attract some attention, but it does not stand. A quick survey with Marble(OpenStreetmap view) and Google satellite view is enough to verify that some of the locks were too small for the u-boats, they could not go though. Furthermore even if back then it was Prussian territory there were also ethic poles in the area. So the canal was exposed to possible espionage. WornOutCog (talk) 14:11, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]