Talk:Mason Williams

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Mason Williams article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Musicians

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by WikiProject Musicians (assessed as Mid-importance).

Classical music

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Classical music, which aims to improve, expand, copy edit, and maintain all articles related to classical music, that are not covered by other classical music related projects. Please read the guidelines for writing and maintaining articles. To participate, you can edit this article or visit the project page for more details.Classical musicWikipedia:WikiProject Classical musicTemplate:WikiProject Classical musicClassical music articles

Guitarists

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Guitarists, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Guitarists on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.GuitaristsWikipedia:WikiProject GuitaristsTemplate:WikiProject Guitaristsguitarist articles

Oklahoma Low‑importance

	Oklahoma portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Oklahoma, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. state of Oklahoma on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.OklahomaWikipedia:WikiProject OklahomaTemplate:WikiProject OklahomaOklahoma articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Oregon Low‑importance

	Oregon portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Oregon, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. state of Oregon on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.OregonWikipedia:WikiProject OregonTemplate:WikiProject OregonOregon articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
The current collaborations of the month are Women's History Month: Create or improve articles for women listed at Oregon Women of Achievement (modern) or Women of the West, Oregon chapter (historical).

United States: Texas Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Texas portal This article is supported by WikiProject Texas (assessed as Low-importance).

Additional Info on A Gift of Song, to be included (edited) into the article???

I have a 45rpm recording of A Gift of Song, different than the one on the Gift of Song Album, which is an instrumental; different in that he is singing lyrics to the song with a choral backup and full orchestra. I would call it a hymn to the joy of "giving" music. I would like to add the label information for those interested in acquiring it, if available, and for the purpose of informing fans of it's existance since I can find no referance to it anywhere. Can I simply type the info into the edit page?..or do I need to post it in a particular section. I'd also like to know if it is available anywhere. This is a beautiful piece of work!! I'm very surprized there is no referance to it here. I think this information should be part of the article. The label on my 45 rpm Vinyl is as follows: WARNER BROS.-SEVEN ARTS RECORDS

MASON WILLIAMS

Produced by Dick Glasser

"A Gift of Song" (Patty Ingles)

Irving Music, Inc.

BMI -4:30

7301 (N16983)

Arranged by Al Capps from the Warner Bros.-Seven Arts Album WS 1788, "Music

By Mason Williams"

--Butchwhitmon (talk) 19:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I formatted your post to get rid of the box around the text. Interesting info. Probably the reason it's not in the article is because no one could find a reference to it. I checked Allmusic and didn't see it there. The standard on Wikipedia is that info shouldn't be added unless it can be cited using a reliable source. Otherwise it can be seen as original research. I don't doubt that own what you say you own, but since I firmly believe in citations, I hesitate to encourage you to add the info to the article without them. I'm going to post a note at WikiProject Music and ask them to come take a look. Maybe they can help find a source for the info. Katr67 (talk) 16:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When you say it's different from the Gift of Song album version, I presume you mean the 1992 album, which came out long after his years with Warner Bros. A much earlier version of the song appears on the album Music in 1969, and it has a timing of 4:30, so it's likely the same as your version. BTW, I don't know anything about Mason Williams, I'm just looking at the online discography used as a reference in the article.

If both sides of the single are from albums, there is probably no urgent need to add it to the article. As for the question about not including a record if there is no citation for it, I think the vast majority of discography lists on WP have no citation, and I'm not certain that a record-by-record citation is required, which is what you would need to do if using several references. This article is already going the extra mile by including a couple of references for its discography.

If I can suggest an improvement to the discography, it has a mixture of singles, albums, compilations, and records by groups or other people, rather than Mason Williams as a solo artist. It's okay to include them, but there should be greater clarity as to what each item is. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 08:13, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sharepickers

When will they ever come out with the CD of Sharepickers. It's available at Amazon in LP format. Not too helpful when you don't have a turntable. I wrote William's promoter and was told it's on LP. Like that is satisfactory??? I already knew that. Also, who were MW's parents and did he have any siblings?

Adding new references broke footnote numbering

I have begun to help improve this page by adding more references. I have read the tutotials on editing and references. Unintentionally, by adding new references #9-13, I broke the links for the footnote numbers within the text. I am not an html expert, so I can't see how to correct this problem. How can I continue to add new references to the reflist, and then footnotes in the body text areas? TIA for suggestions and advice.

--MTLMTL (talk) 03:41, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Test of Refs and Notes

==Reference test==MTLMTL (talk) 20:22, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mason had a little lamb. ^[1]

--MTLMTL (talk) 20:31, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Mason Williams," Contemporary Authors Online, Gale, 2002. Reproduced in Biography Resource Center. Farmington Hills, Mich.: Gale, 2002. Retrieved 4/20/2009.

How to make a ref list of short names of sources?

MTLMTL (talk) 20:22, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How many grammies?

Classical gas. Two grammies or three? The same section claims both numbers. Ought to be easy enough to verify.Twang (talk) 20:32, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Life Section

Right now this is somewhat of a mess. It reads morre like some notes someone took rather than fully developed prose. Also, it refers to a Canadian born wife that seemingly he now is married to without mentioning either her name nor when they tied the knot. 173.202.242.209 (talk) 16:15, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to one external link on Mason Williams. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/20120821211837/http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/moca-audio-and-podcasts/id152548017 to https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/moca-audio-and-podcasts/id152548017#

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 16:46, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on Mason Williams. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 01:23, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 3 external links on Mason Williams. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110205062307/http://www.hotpopsongs.com/Music/Grammies/1968.html to http://www.hotpopsongs.com/Music/Grammies/1968.html
Corrected formatting/usage for https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/moca-audio-and-podcasts/id152548017%23
Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20101127124922/http://omhof.org/press/pr_081707.pdf to http://www.omhof.org/press/pr_081707.pdf
Added {{dead link}} tag to http://www.seattlepi.com/archives/1987/8701210971.asp

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 03:00, 26 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've heard that tear-stained monologue you do there by the door before you go

What about "I've heard that tear-stained monologue you do there by the door before you go"?

I have a memory, possibly incorrect, of Mason Williams singing this in the early 1970s, and I found a link attributing it to him -- but with no date.

However, I also found it attributed to John Hartford (1969). From this, I'm guessing that Hartford may have written it and Williams recorded it later?

???DavidMCEddy (talk) 17:59, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You would be correct. That particular song appears on Hartford's eponymous RCA album - LSP 4156 - released in 1969.THX1136 (talk) 01:43, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bus Book

He also released Bus Book (1968) 70.26.26.188 (talk) 17:02, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sister

Nanette Williams, age 68, lives in Bethany, Oklahoma 192.24.20.70 (talk) 21:22, 18 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Weasel Words(?)

"Like many writer-performers..." These sound like weasel words to me. However, drawing up a list would do nothing to enhance the article, so instead of going down that rabbit-hole, I wonder if they should simply be removed? Mandolamus (talk) 19:42, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Mason Williams," Contemporary Authors Online, Gale, 2002. Reproduced in Biography Resource Center. Farmington Hills, Mich.: Gale, 2002. Retrieved 4/20/2009.

[1]