Talk:Mary Ellis grave

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huh?

so there's a cemetery in a movie theater parking lot? what's so special about it or the people buried there that kept it from being paved over? -- stubblyh ea d | ^T/_c 18:02, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Its a geography stub. It doesn't have to be any more special than your hometown. Thats what the New Jersey Geography Wikiproject is for.

I'm not debating it's relevance or notability. just curious what made loew's care enough to leave it be. -- stubblyh ea d | ^T/_c 15:27, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ohhhhhhhh! sorry. My apologies. It was part of the pact to develop the land that was her home. They knocked down the home, but kept the grave in the back in the grass. The land became a Flea Market for about 20 years, and that was finally sold to Sony for the theater. They regraded the land in the back for a new parking lot and the grave ended up 7 feet above the lot in the middle of the new parking lot.

There is an unsubstantiated rumor from Callinectes of panoramio.com that Mary Ellis served as the inspiration for the 1972 pop song "Brandy" written by Elliot Lurie and recorded by the band Looking Glass. perhaps a bit far fetched, also General Anthony Walton White (1750-1803) is sited in his entry as buried in the grounds of Christ Church Episcopal Churchyard in New Brunswick, New Jersey. Richardsidler (talk) 20:46, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just found this page whilst skimming articles. I believe there was a Weird New Jersey book a few years back, which tells the whole story in considerably more detail than what is found here. My copy is in storage, so I can't help you out right now.RadioKAOS (talk) 14:56, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The rumor of the Looking Glass song Brandy being based on this tale is untrue. Elliot Lurie, lead guitarist and writer/singer of the song, said in an interview that the lyrics were loosely based on a girl he knew in real life, and while the stories may be similar, the song has nothing to do with Mary Ellis. ^[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.53.90.157 (talk) 21:21, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/13523

Date of death, Mary Ellis

All of the dates of Mary Ellis' death in this article are inconsistent and confusing:

The lead paragraph (parenthetically) states that she died in 1827, as does the caption of the photo.
The New York Times article cited in Footnote (currently #5) states that she died in 1826.
The grave marker in the photograph indicates a death date of 1828 (or perhaps 1829) ... it's somewhat blurred and hard to read ... but it does not at all look like 1826 or 1827.

Can someone who knows the actual accurate date please fix all of these inconsistencies ... or, at least, explain them within the article? Thanks. (Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 19:20, 8 June 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Section moved without substantial change from Talk:Mary Ellis (spinster) following a merge, as the dates still need to be checked. --Mirokado (talk) 21:22, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The photo of the gravestone in Findagrave clearly shows 1828 (perhaps this is now a better photo than previously). The Findagrave text still says 1827 but I will assume that is a typo, update the article to say 1828 and add a note that sources are in disagreement. --Mirokado (talk) 22:06, 14 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Burials section

What the heck is the purpose of this section and its subsections on birth order and death order? I cannot for the life of me understand what these are doing here, and will delete the whole section barring an explanation that makes sense. Un school 22:46, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, a review of the revision history answered my question. To read the article today, one would think there is only one person buried here. But the original article made it clear that there are several; the lists are of the other people in the mini-cemetery.

To make this more clear to the reader, I am going to revise the text a bit. But I am also going to eliminate the redundancy of the sections on birth order and death order. Simply one list of the "inhabitants" will suffice. Un school 22:52, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mary Ellis grave vs. Mary Ellis Grave

Hi,

I'm wondering if this article needs to be called Mary Ellis Grave or grave. I'm unfamiliar with the American ways of english so could someone please tell me which one is better?

AussieCoinCollector (talk) wish the entire world's COVID-19 status was like WA, 275+ days of no local cases :) 23:02, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm also not American, but the current title complies with MOS:TITLECASE and is consistent with the usage (the Mary Ellis grave) in the rest of the article. Both capitalisations turn up in a Google search, so I'm happy with the current name. --Mirokado (talk) 23:29, 18 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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