Talk:Mary Chilton

First person ashore at Plymouth?

T his is a highly dubious claim. It is, frankly, downright illogical that a woman, let alone a child, would have been part of the first landing party on December 17, 1620. Making a landing on an unknown land (when only a few days earlier a skirmish with native americans forced them to relocate from Cape Cod to Plymouth) with a 13 year old child along with them simply would not have happened. The first landing party at Cape Cod was lead by Bradford, Edward Winslow, and Standish. It is likely that these three lead the first party at Plymouth.

Legends tend to have some basis in fact. Legends tend to grow in order to fill in the blanks of events. It is highly unlikely that the blanks about the first landing party would have been filled in with a 13 year old child being the first person ashore, for all the reasons previously stated.

What is logical is that Mary Chilton was the first woman ashore at Plymouth, most likely on December 21, 1620. While there are no first person accounts of this (hence legend), it seems likely that this is the proper reading of the legend. It is very unlikely that they would have risked the life of a 13 year old girl on the actual first landing.Bgrin (talk) 15:13, 21 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree wholeheartedly. The first persons ashore would have been a scouting party of some kind, which of course would not have included a 13 year old girl. Since Mary's father died 9 days previous and her mother was dying, I would think it more likely that after the scouting party had deemed the landing site safe, Mary had been given the treat of being the next passenger to disembark. 69.42.34.160 (talk) 18:01, 9 June 2011 (UTC)HistoryLunatic[reply]

Baptised before birth

Born: 1607 Baptised: May 31, 1606

I assume she was baptised right after her birth (i.e. 1607) but have no proof. Can somebody correct that? --Olboph (talk) 03:58, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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