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Nuances

I think that the present text does try to present the nuances and could be tweaked a bit here and there. I am glad the point is made about possible anachronisms. This is one of the concerns of Heiko Oberman. I wonder if we can chunk in some of the earlier work in 1523. One point that should be made is that Luther opposed the Jews mainly for the same reason that he opposed Counter-Reformation theologians: they advocated a work's righteousness religion in his opinion. Luther was more against this than anything else in his career: he believed that such a religion was diabolical. Luther was also speaking of "Judaizing" radical reform groups, who as Christians readopted Jewish traditions like circumcision, the Sabbath, and distinction of foods. His work Against the Sabbatarians is mainly against these radical reform groups. Luther saw a parallel between the Pharisees of the first century and the Counter-Reformation theologians of the 16th century.--Drboisclair 02:43, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

By all means, try to write up something about that, Drb. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 19:36, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

When I work up something I will post it here first for approval and tweaking.--Drboisclair 20:21, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Good idea. Thank you. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 01:26, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

THe passage in "Luther's understanding of God" is Romans 1:17, not Romans 1:7 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.188.130.24 (talk • contribs)

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Sola Scriptura

This article does not make any mention of Martin Luther's role in creating the Sola Scriptura doctrine (and also, the article on Sola Scriptura does not mention Martin Luther).

The Martin Luther article says:

"Luther's study and research as a Bible professor led him to question the contemporary usage of terms such as penance and righteousness in the Roman Catholic Church. He became convinced that the church had lost sight of what he saw as several of the central truths of Christianity"

...but back then, the Bible wasn't considered to have enough authority to override the Church. If the Bible said 'X' and the Pope said 'Y', you were expected to believe Y. The idea that the Bible was the final authority was something that Luther came up with himself.

Thanks for the note! Sola Scriptura is indeed important (although, as I recall, Luther never used the term). I believe we have it in substance in the article, but will look to make it more specific.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.49.65.93 (talk • contribs) .

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flagellations

A new editor just removed this phrase from the disciplines that Luther undertook as a monk. Does anyone have a citation for this aspect of Luther's monastic life? --CTSWyneken^(talk) 14:54, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Brecht does not mention it, so it may be a legend that Luther practiced self-flagellation. In the 1953 film "Martin Luther" he is portrayed as practicing it. --Drboisclair 03:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)