Talk:Martin Kamen

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Character assassination since 2005

I have removed a section "Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine" under "Controversies", which may be seen here. Much of this text was first entered 5 April 2005 by an IP.

But _why_ was this text added to _this_ article? What does it purport to say about the subject of this article?

It said that "... Kamen became a member of the faculty at the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, ..." M'kay. Then it goes on at length with how terrible those people were because of the Oregon Petition.

But the text makes gives no information, make no assertions, regarding this article's subject. The single ref (registration required) might or might not mention Kamen, but the Oregon Petition article doesn't.

In short, this appears nothing so much as character assassination by purported association with a socially disfavored group. Without more explanation or better refs, the section is ridicule by broadsheet, and should not be present here.

Now there *is* more to the story, not at all _explained_ by the deleted text. The 'faculty' was a very limited group of 8 ^{[citation needed]} people. Thus an _assumption_ ^{[citation needed]} might be made he was acquainted with the Oregon Petition. And some sites say that he was a signatory ^{[citation needed]} of the petition, along with 1000's of others. Even if these things were granted, I haven't seen where someone says he was instrumental in the petition project ^{[citation needed]} - that is, that this controversial project actually delineates Kamen.

As Kamen was someone who was unjustly blacklisted by the US government through _assumptions_, as shown by this article, without a great deal of evidence how can Wikipedia contain the deleted text with any decency? Only through clear text accompanied by a number of valid references could this be done. The deleted text did not have that. Shenme (talk) 04:22, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

32P

Wasn't the Berkeley-Russia problem the gift of 32P orthophosphate to treat a Russian scientist's wife for bone cancer? Charles Juvon (talk) 05:50, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

PD Photo

According to the US DOE, Martin Kamen is on top, 4th from left in this image: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:University_of_California_Radiation_Laboratory_staff_on_the_magnet_yoke_for_the_60-inch_cyclotron,_1938.jpg and https://www.flickr.com/photos/37916456@N02/43439971465 Charles Juvon (talk) 22:54, 8 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]