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Request regarding article

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Hello,

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On October 21, 2024, I added a book by Mark Karpeles, published by Kodansha, to the article. The entry included the ISBN number, two sources, and followed the format I've seen used in other articles.[1] Approximately 12 hours later, @Notwally reverted my edit with the summary, "Reverted 1 edit by Amber hurt (talk) to last revision by MusikBot II," without further explanation. Following that, @Notwally added a template to my talk page accusing me of adding promotional content.[2] However, all I did was add a book to the article—what exactly was inappropriate?

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On October 22, 2024, I spent several hours reworking the Mark Karpeles article because I believe it lacks neutrality and balance. I raised the issue in the Teahouse, seeking collaboration from other editors.[3] About three hours later, @Notwally again reverted all my contributions, citing "Rv sock edits" as the reason, even though no sockpuppet investigation had yet identified me as such.[4] Despite not being blocked or confirmed as a sockpuppet, @Notwally reverted my edits under that assumption.

So far, I’ve received no feedback from @Notwally regarding the book removal or my work on the Karpeles article. I firmly believe that my version is more balanced and meets the standards here better than the current one. Therefore, I kindly request a comparison of both versions and potential changes, as I can no longer edit the article—it was restricted to extended confirmed users about 12 hours ago.

The CheckUser didnt identified me as Sock Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lustigermutiger21 i request to replace the current version into the better and more balanced version Amber hurt (talk) 04:41, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Amber hurt, I don't think you need the Wikipedia:Requests for comment process, so I've pulled the tag. I think you need a Wikipedia:Third opinion. WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:24, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I made it more specific and added two new topics in talk, “Edit Request: October 2024” and “Request for general revision and restore version 1252696654” with the template for extended-protected pages Amber hurt (talk) 07:14, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request: October 2024

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Hello, I would like to propose a revision of the opening section of the Mark Karpeles article. Below is the change I suggest for the header:

Current version: Mark Marie Robert Karpelès[1][2] (born 1 June 1985) is the former CEO of bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox.[3][4] Born in France, he moved to Japan in 2009.[5][6] Under his leadership, Mt. Gox was the world's largest bitcoin exchange, handling over 70% of all bitcoin transactions at its peak before filing for bankruptcy in 2014.[7][8][9] Karpelès was subsequently arrested and convicted of data manipulation related to his role at Mt. Gox.

Proposed version: Mark Marie Robert Karpelès[1][10] (born June 1, 1985) is a French entrepreneur and former CEO of the bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox.[11][12] Born in France, he moved to Japan in 2009.[13][14] Under his leadership, Mt. Gox became one of the largest bitcoin exchanges globally, handling over 70% of all bitcoin transactions at its peak before filing for bankruptcy in 2014.[15][16][17]


Reason for change:

  • The proposed version improves readability
  • It maintains neutrality by removing repetitive references to his legal issues, which are already discussed multiple times later in the article.

Thank you for considering this request!

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The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
  1. ^ a b "Declaration of Robert Marie Mark Karpeles" (PDF). US Bankruptcy Court for the Northern District of Texas Dallas Division. p. 1. Retrieved 13 March 2014. The document, signed by "Robert Marie Mark Karpeles", was published by Ars Technica on the Scribd website, and according to Ars Technica is a court document filed in US Bankruptcy Court.
  2. ^ Cite error: The named reference farivar2014 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  3. ^ Cite error: The named reference copainsdavant was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  4. ^ King, Leo (2014-02-26). "Mt. Gox CEO Mark Karpeles: 'I am still in Japan'". Forbes. Retrieved 2014-02-27.
  5. ^ Warnock, Eleanor; Mochizuki, Takashi (2014-02-28). "Bitcoin's Mt. Gox: a look at the man in charge". The Wall Street Journal.
  6. ^ Philippe, Berry (2014-02-27). "MtGox: Mark Karpèles, un "supergeek" français au cœur du scandale bitcoin". 20 Minutes (in French). Retrieved 2014-02-27.
  7. ^ "Bitcoin rebounds to $57,000 after billions in Mt. Gox refunds fueled a selloff". Quartz. 2024-07-08. Retrieved 2024-07-11.
  8. ^ "Germans, Mt. Gox, or Feds: Who Caused the Bitcoin Dip?". Financial and Business News | Finance Magnates. 2024-07-08. Retrieved 2024-07-11.
  9. ^ Zielinski, Radek (2024-07-08). "Mt. Gox to repay investors in Bitcoin". ReadWrite. Retrieved 2024-07-11.
  10. ^ Farivar, Cyrus (2014-03-10). "MtGox files for US bankruptcy protection to put lawsuits on hold". Ars Technica. Retrieved 2024-10-22.
  11. ^ KARPELÈS, Prénom Nom : Mark Robert; Vit à : TOKYO, Japon; ans), Né le : 1 juin 1985 (39; d'entreprise, Profession : Chef. "Mark Robert KARPELÈS". Copains d'avant (in French). Retrieved 2024-10-22.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)
  12. ^ King, Leo. "Mt. Gox CEO Mark Karpeles: 'I Am Still In Japan'". Forbes. Retrieved 2024-10-22.
  13. ^ "Bitcoin's Mt. Gox: A Look at the Man in Charge".
  14. ^ "Scandale bitcoin: Mark Karpèles, un «supergeek» français au cœur de l'affaire". www.20minutes.fr (in French). 2014-02-27. Retrieved 2024-10-22.
  15. ^ "Bitcoin rebounds to $57,000 after billions in Mt. Gox refunds fueled a selloff". Quartz. 2024-07-08. Retrieved 2024-07-11.
  16. ^ "Germans, Mt. Gox, or Feds: Who Caused the Bitcoin Dip?". Financial and Business News | Finance Magnates. 2024-07-08. Retrieved 2024-07-11.
  17. ^ Zielinski, Radek (2024-07-08). "Mt. Gox to repay investors in Bitcoin". ReadWrite. Retrieved 2024-07-11.

Amber hurt (talk) 07:08, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I object to removing the sentence about being convicted of a crime. If the company has one serious civil legal issue (e.g., bankruptcy) and you have multiple serious criminal legal issues, then it's not "repetitive" to mention both in the lead. WhatamIdoing (talk) 07:28, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would normally agree with you, but the narrative in this article is overwhelmingly focused on negativity. I have reviewed every single source, even subscribing to access some behind paywalls. The article states, "The court said Karpelès had inflicted 'massive harm to the trust of his users' and there was 'no excuse' for him to 'abuse his status and authority to perform clever criminal acts'," despite the fact that he was acquitted of both breach of trust and embezzlement charges. As CNN reported: "Karpeles’s acquittal on the more serious allegations of embezzlement and aggravated breach of trust was a surprise. The conviction rate in Japan after prosecutors file criminal charges is above 99%." But in this article, the emphasis is on portraying Karpeles negatively rather than reporting neutrally. Amber hurt (talk) 11:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with WhatamIdoing. There is no reason to be whitewashing the article. The arrests and convictions of the article subject are the most notable aspect of his career and are discussed by every recent article about him I have seen published by high quality sources. The lead includes the most significant aspects of the article. – notwally (talk) 18:58, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request for general revision and restore version 1252696654

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I am writing to address a recent edit dispute regarding the Mark Karpeles article. I made multiple revisions (Latest revision: 1252696654) that were reverted by @Notwally under the misleading edit summary "Rv sock edits." After a checkuser review, it was confirmed that I am not a sockpuppet, making the reason for the revert baseless.

Quote Checkuser: "Regarding Amber hurt, lots of people are into crypto. I'm not seeing enough in the editing histories to block on with nothing more than "possible" from CU." by @RoySmith

I strongly believe that my version of the article offers a more accurate and balanced version of Karpeles' career and legal proceedings for the following reasons:

1.     Improved Structure and Readability: My version organizes the article more effectively by clearly separating Karpeles' roles at Tibanne, the Bitcoin Foundation, and Mt. Gox. This structure helps readers better understand the timeline of events and his involvement in different ventures.

2.     Accurate Legal Proceedings: My version presents the legal proceedings more clearly, emphasizing the difference between the charges Karpeles faced and the final outcomes. This provides a balanced view without leaning into sensationalism.

3.    NPOV: My version avoids unnecessary repetition of legal charges and negative framing, while still giving an accurate account of the facts. In contrast, @Notwally's version appears to focus heavily on negative events, leading to a potentially biased presentation.

I kindly request a comparison of both versions and potential changes, as I can no longer edit the article—it was restricted to extended confirmed users. If agreed, please restore version 1252696654 Amber hurt (talk) 07:10, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

There is no reason to be whitewashing the article. The arrests and convictions of the article subject are the most notable aspect of his career and are discussed by every recent article about him I have seen published by high quality sources. The lead includes the most significant aspects of the article. Changes to remove this information, the same changes that numerous sockpuppets have attempted, are not appropriate. As for the creation of unnecessary subsections, see WP:OVERSECTION. – notwally (talk) 19:04, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, noting that the checkuser never confirmed Amber hurt is not a sockpuppet account of Lustigermutiger21. The checkuser result was "possible". See investigation: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lustigermutiger21. – notwally (talk) 19:48, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

lying on bank documents?

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Whats the source for the lying?

,,Despite its growth, Mt. Gox faced growing operational, security, and financial challenges, including having $5 million seized from its accounts by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in 2013 for allegedly lying on bank documents."

Edited by a guy who edits odd to put this article into negative POV. 2001:8F8:1F28:9780:4490:6788:FC8A:98D6 (talk) 18:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Book section

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I suggest to add a book section:

Books

Cryptocurrency 3.0. - Kodansha (講談社) (May 30, 2019). - C. 226. - ISBN 978-4065150382[1][2]

Simple reason: He wrote a book and there are numerous reliable sources backing it.

86.98.213.4 (talk) 10:22, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "ビットコインの創始者「サトシ・ナカモト」という虚像の正体（上田 岳弘,マルク カルプレス） @moneygendai". マネー現代 (in Japanese). 2019-07-12. Retrieved 2024-10-21.
  2. ^ "異才カルプレス 「仮想通貨3.0」で再び革命！". FRIDAYデジタル. 2019-07-01. Retrieved 2024-10-21.
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