Talk:Mark Hotchin

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This page should not be speedy deleted because the person is clearly notable. I note that the editor who put this up for deletion has all of five edits; it would appear unusual that somebody new to Wikipedia gets straight into discussions on speedy deletion. Schwede 66 02:40, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

While I may appear new to Wikipedia, I am a strong supporter and user of Wikipedia, hence find it interesting that User:Schwede66 takes it upon themselves to be a final arbitrator of editorial content for this particular page--DLMMackie (talk) 03:31, 10 December 2012 (UTC). — Preceding unsigned comment added by DLMMackie (talk • contribs) 03:29, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted recent edits

I have reverted the recent edits by User:DLMMackie because of an unexplained removal of a lot of content as well as many references.

My understanding of Wiki is that everyone can edit content, as and when they feel like it should an issue have interest. I can see that bare URLs are unhelpful, but question why you have such an interest in reverting the edits that I made? --DLMMackie (talk) 03:47, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There was also a bit of a mess created with partial reference deletions, resulting in bare URLs. Schwede 66 01:56, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have invited User:DLMMackie to discuss on this talk page what the purpose of deleting lots of content and accompanying references is. Why, for example, would one want to delete the following?

"In 2007, Forbes listed Hotchin and Watson as the 33rd and 34th richest people in New Zealand and Australia.^[1]"

Is there anything controversial about this statement? If yes, I can't see it. Is the URL of the reference dead? No. Is the source unreliable? Not that I'm aware of. Do any of DLMMackie's edits have an edit summary? Nope. Do the edits appear reasonable? No. Hence, I have reverted the last lot of changes again. I would be more than happy to learn through these talk pages what is going on here. Schwede 66 08:15, 6 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a good reason for the deletion of this reference - What purpose does it add to the content? A mention of someones rich status seems irrelevant to the issue. As such I took the view that (aside from a potential salacious viewpoint)it didn't add value to the page.--DLMMackie (talk) 03:47, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Again I take exception to the suggestion that the edits I made are not reasonable. Wiki is meant to be a live forum, and I'm all for editing if something is incorrect. But to have some arbitrarily take it upon themselves to decide what is reasonable and what is not raises questions about the intent of editorial input. --DLMMackie (talk) 03:47, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for coming here and giving some context to what you are doing. Yes, this is a live forum and it's great that everybody can edit almost anything, but the Wikipedia community has given itself certain rules which we all have to follow. First of all, I suggest that you review Help:Edit summary. Without having had the benefit of edit summaries, I could not figure out what it is that you were trying to achieve, and for that reason, I reverted you.

As for the example that you comment on above, the article is not about an "issue", as you call it, but it is a biography about a person. We include people in WP when they meet notability criteria. If somebody appears on a rich list, that adds to their notability. As such, this is very much of relevance to a biography and should thus be included in the article. Schwede 66 18:03, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

^ Doebele, Justin (2007-02-12). "Australia and New Zealand's 40 richest". Forbes. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

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[forbes-1] Doebele, Justin (2007-02-12). "Australia and New Zealand's 40 richest". Forbes. {{cite news}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)

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