Talk:Mark-Almond

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This stub will be expanded. Mark-Almond was an important band in the nascent jazz-fusion and smooth jazz movements of the 1970s, and has a significant discography.Jerry picker 19:10, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I'll withdraw the speedy nom, and replace it with a prod. Please read WP:MUSIC. There is no current notability claimed, and the one review you have a link to, the link doesn't work. When notability is established in the text of the article, feel free to remove the prod tag. Akradecki 19:24, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I'll see what I can find. This was one of my favorite bands 35 years ago. I guess Akradecki's too young to remember songs like "One-way Sunday", "The City" or "The Tramp and the Young Girl". Fan-1967 19:25, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! At 45, it's not often that I get called "too young"! Akradecki 19:32, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Seems to me they were all over the AOR stations around 1970-71 when I was 13. Fan-1967 19:40, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Under WP:MUSIC for notability see: "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such." Several such connections are made in the article, most importantly with Mayall's Bluesbreakers. Also "Has had a charted hit on any national music chart, in at least one large or medium-sized country"..."One-way Sunday", "The City" or "The Tramp and the Young Girl" in the UK and USA qualify. Jerry picker 19:27, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

It may well meet the requirement with the album release, but the point is, you have to document that album in the article. The reason for the prod was to give you time to do that. Akradecki 19:36, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Respectfully, my documentation of the Mick Jagger, Mariane Faithfull, and John Mayall connections, and the A&M record deal were all in the article before you put the second prod in. I am curious as to why you are in such a hurry to discredit this article. My intentions are good, Mark-Almond is legitimate, and within a matter of minutes of its creation I have brought it up to Wiki specs.Jerry picker 19:47, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Likewise, I invite you to re-visit WP:SPEEDY, noting specifically, " Before nominating an article for speedy deletion, please consider whether an article could be improved or reduced to a stub. Also, please note that some Wikipedians create articles in multiple saves, so try to avoid deleting a page too soon after its initial creation. Users nominating a page for speedy deletion should specify which criteria the page meets." Also, see the nine general criteria.Jerry picker 22:50, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

The reference link now works. Jerry picker 19:30, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Mark-Almond was definitely a notable group. I can't believe this was ever questioned. Wasted Time R 02:00, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I totally agree. This article was literally in the first minutes in the process of being written when the vigilante decided to try to get rid of it. It was really bizarre. Jerry picker 15:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Greatest hits & Grammy

I am fairly certain that Mark-Almond's greatest hits were 'The City' and 'New York State of Mind' and hope that these can be included in the article. ChloeBurchell 02:35, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Also, please amend your link to the Grammy win. The following link (which works) is an article about the Grammy win published by the NZ Herald: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=3548581 ChloeBurchell 22:36, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. --Popmuseum (talk) 10:57, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 16:07, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Opening paragraph

The opening paragraph currently reads:

Mark–Almond were an English band of the late 1960s and early 1970s, who worked in the territory between rock and jazz. In 1970 Jon Mark and Johnny Almond formed Mark-Almond (also occasionally referred to as The Mark-Almond Band). The melancholy tones of saxophonist Almond were an integral part of the group's sound, and Almond frequently played flute as well, including the bass flute. Characterized by a blend of blues and jazz riffs, latin beats, and a mellow rock aesthetic, and in contrast to the heavier guitar-driven rock of his contemporaries, composer and band leader Mark worked at producing warm and melodic works.[1]

The footnote links to a website called "Time-has-told-me-blogspot", which begins thus:

Mark–Almond was an English band of the late 1960s and early 1970s, who worked in the territory between rock and jazz. In 1970 Jon Mark and Johnny Almond formed Mark-Almond (also occasionally referred to as The Mark-Almond Band). The melancholy tones of saxophonist Almond were an integral part of the group's sound, and Almond frequently played flutes as well, including the rarely-heard bass flute. Characterized by a blend of blues and jazz riffs, latin beats, and a mellow rock aesthetic, and in contrast the heavier guitar-driven rock of his contemporaries, composer and band leader Mark worked at producing warm and melodic works.

There are three obvious problems here: 1) Some random person's random blog is not a valid reference for a Wikipedia article (or anything else). 2) A Wikipedia article should not copy verbatim from a source without quotation marks and naming and acknowledging the source within the body of the article. 3) "Melancholy tones" and "warm and melodic works" are POV. (So even if the source were valid (which clearly it is not) and even if it were not plagiarized, these characterizations would not be appropriate unless the article said something like, according to [valid source] "sax was melancholy, music was warm and melodic". TheScotch (talk) 05:40, 17 November 2016 (UTC)

I've now significantly altered the opening paragraph. TheScotch (talk) 06:13, 17 November 2016 (UTC)