Talk:Marjorie Arnfield

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College, university

The current version says:

While attending art schools in Sunderland (Sunderland College of Art) and Durham (Durham University), ...

But did Durham University ever have any sort of art department? Might it have been at King's College (which was at Newcastle before Newcastle's separation from Durham in 1963)? It would be useful if references can be found and quoted that add some form of precision, especially to the Durham suggestion. Alas I have no books about her. Meanwhile I'll place a 'fact' template on them. (Incidentally pedantically speaking 'Durham University' would be wrong; it was (and legally still is) the 'University of Durham', the term 'Durham University' only gained some official currency within the last couple of years.) Feline Hymnic (talk) 18:54, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Partial self-reply: I see that King's College, Durham (in Newcastle upon Tyne, and fore-runner to the later-independent University of Newcastle upon Tyne) did have an art department. But refs/cites would still be nice. Feline Hymnic (talk) 00:05, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Catalogue issued for Marjorie's posthumous exhibition at Nottingham University in July 2001 (Marjorie Arnfield, a Celebration of Her Life and Work) has a brief CV.

Anyway, the CV says that Marjorie attended Sunderland College of Art, followed by the King Edward VII College of Art, University of Durham.

I have just amended the relevant section of the Marjorie Arnfield wiki page, but didn't want to remove your reference to King's College.

Anecdotally, I always had a recollection that Marjorie had studied in Newcastle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Englishhistorian (talk • contribs) 17:01, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Englishhistorian here again - I found an art exhibition catalogue from 1954 which spoke about the Department of Fine Art at King's College, University of Durham. This perturbed me somewhat, so I went to the Durham University website and this is what I found:

"A royal commission of 1935 led to further constitutional changes which took effect in 1937. Under the new arrangements the Durham Colleges continued as the Durham Division, but in Newcastle the College of Medicine and Armstrong College, with its associated King Edward VII School of Art (founded in 1837 as the Newcastle School of Art which became part of the College of Science in 1888), were merged to form a unified Newcastle Division named King's College."

I just found an article from The Artist (the article referenced on Marjorie's wikipedia page) where she told the interviewer that she attended King Edward VII College of Art. Interestingly, she didn't say - "the Department of Fine Art at King's College"

But probably, it would have been more correct to say "department of Fine Art, King's College." Yet, people will often refer to an institution by its old name, years after it had changed name.

My solution to your query would be to refer to King Edward VII College of Art,as being part of King's College, University of Durham, later becoming the university of Newcastle —Preceding unsigned comment added by Englishhistorian (talk • contribs) 17:44, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. From long local knowledge, I'm familiar with the University of Durham (founded 1832) having a major outpost at Newcastle known as "King's College", which in 1963 formally became the University of Newcastle upon Tyne. But I've no recollection of ever hearing the name "King Edward VII" college. (I not claiming that the name never existed; merely that the name's use today would need clarification even to those familiar with the history of Durham/Newcastle university history.) Feline Hymnic (talk) 21:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Coal mining

Re. your other query - about the point at which Marjorie became concerned about the coal miners and the coal mining industry. She said in the article I mentioned above that she was always aware of the mines, growing up in the North East.

I then found in the excellent The Artists of Northumbria the following statement: "her lifelong interest in the mining industry led her in the 1990s to record its virtual demise and in 1994 British Coal toured her exhibition Coal Mining in Nottinghamshire - a Tribute, to produce work for which she subsequently went underground in a wheelchair."

Great. I've removed my edit that had requested confirmation, and add the ref you mention. Feline Hymnic (talk) 21:38, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tee-side?

This edit inserted a reference to "Tee-side". Would that be Teesside? If the Guardian article had it wrong (as if!) their version should perhaps be retained. SamuelTheGhost (talk) 21:17, 10 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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