Talk:Marion Angus

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Copyright

There has been repeated removal of a quotation alleging copyright infringement. The twelve lines are taken from a 64-page book. The book, Marion Angus: The Tinker's Road and Other Verses (Glasgow/London: Gowans and Gray, 1924) is out of copyright as the author died in 1946. Bmcln1 (talk) 10:59, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

What sort of proof that the lines are out of copyright does the attacker want? A copy of the author's death certificate? Bmcln1 (talk) 11:28, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) We can't publish this while we work it out, we have to work it out first.

The length of the poem relative to the length of the book is not a major consideration; poems are valuable of themselves. And unfortunately, there is a very real possibility that the book is still under copyright.

We are bound by United States law. Under the United States law, copyright in works published abroad between 1923 through 1977 depends on various factors. Chief among them, for our concern, is whether or not the work was public domain on 1 January 1996 in the country where it was published. Until 1995, copyright law in the UK protected a work for 50 years from the death of the author (the work entered public domain on January 1 of the following year). This would mean that if Angus died in 1946, his works would have entered public domain in the UK in 1997, unfortunately just a year after the cut off. Works that miss the cut off are protected in the United States for 95 years from the date of publication, which would make this book and its contents copyrighted in our jurisdiction until 2019. Which is ridiculous, but is unfortunately our legal reality. :/ See Wikipedia:Public domain for more information.

In the meantime, you are welcome to quote from poems for critical commentary. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:57, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(Complicating things further, User:Dpmuk points out at my talk page that the content is not public domain in the country of origin, either, because they extended the protection in 1995, retroactively, to 70 years after the death of the author. That means the content is copyrighted in the UK until 2020, as a work enters public domain the year after the term expires. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:32, 20 December 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Thanks for the information. Bmcln1 (talk) 12:39, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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